Asshole Colleges Create “Collegiate Exit Exam”
The Council for Aid to Education thinks there isn’t enough quality information to gauge if undergraduates are actually learning anything. So, in order to really put things in perspective and see past those test scores that apparently are completely unreliable- they made another test.
“The test will measure analysis, problem solving, writing, quantitative reasoning and reading, the Council for Aid to Education said.
“It could serve a similar role to the admission exams that graduate schools rely on as a standard evaluation for their applicants.”
“Employers want to see something they can rely on,” Poliakoff said. “They don’t want to see a portfolio of things that show a candidate may or may not have done.”
“A dirty secret about higher education for a very long while is, we’ve had no particularly good ways of knowing the most important thing, and that is whether students are learning,”
So far a handful of colleges have already adopted the test and I have to say, I’m really stoked…that I already graduated. I could be wrong, but I’m pretty sure a “good way of knowing” whether or not students are learning from their classes is the tests…that they take…at the end of the class.
If a grade point average and existing standardized tests aren’t reliable enough, how is stacking ANOTHER test going to actually accomplish anything? As for prospective employers, I’m pretty sure the whole reference check and interview processes are fairly reliable. If you go through an entire interview and the kid can’t navigate his way through a simple conversation where they have to explain what they’ve done then, uh, don’t hire that person.
This is all incredibly stupid.
[via NBC News]
I’m sorry, I thought this was America.
12 years ago at 10:31 amI actually wouldn’t mind this
12 years ago at 10:53 ami honestly don’t feel like i learned shit in my 5 years of being an undergrad. somethin like this would validate that i either did indeed learn stuff, or that i’ve skated by with an easy major and an adderall prescription. this seems like a step in the right direction towards measuring how much people learn.
12 years ago at 10:57 amI think an interview and your GPA should count more than a test.
12 years ago at 12:30 pmYour gpa is a measure of your work ethic, not your intelligence. That is why people care about it
12 years ago at 2:22 pmYour major is the true gauge of your intelligence.
12 years ago at 3:28 pmI think it’s actually a smart idea. I went to a southern school with a strong regional reputation but a virtually non-existent one outside of the eastern seaboard (other than it’s sports). My school is also notorious for grade deflation and exceptionally challenging classes. Though I was significantly more prepared than kids I know from higher ranked schools, my GPA made it look like I wasn’t. I’d have fucking rocked an exit exam.
12 years ago at 10:39 am*its. Apparently I would have lost some points in the grammar section.
12 years ago at 10:40 amNo…it’s.
12 years ago at 10:42 amno. he corrected himself correctly. back off fuckface.
12 years ago at 10:58 amYou idiots are looking at two different parts of the paragraph.
12 years ago at 12:24 pmJohns Hopkins?
12 years ago at 12:27 pmI guess I’ve just been drawing in a coloring book these last four years.
12 years ago at 10:49 amYeah, hope you enjoyed your time at Auburn.
12 years ago at 10:14 pm^this guy gets it
12 years ago at 10:08 amGood idea, it’s not like all the students have been taking different courses to fit their major or anything. Also they say they want the exam to “serve a similar role to the admission exams that graduate schools rely on”. Any one who has taken the GRE (for Grad School) knows that exam is just as easy as the SAT
12 years ago at 11:24 amIt’s definitely harder than the SAT. I just took it a month ago.
12 years ago at 12:21 pmWell looks like I’m not graduating.
12 years ago at 11:56 amJust when I thought I could just ease through
12 years ago at 12:08 pmWhat I learned in college? I can drink a beer really fast?
12 years ago at 12:22 pm“A dirty secret about higher education for a very long while is, we’ve had no particularly good ways of knowing the most important thing, and that is whether students are learning.”
That’s because most colleges don’t want everyone knowing that the real answer is fuck no.
12 years ago at 1:41 amA couple of questions:
1. How can employers expect to take a raw score and apply them to a given job. It seems that it may be an unnecessary barrier to entry.
12 years ago at 10:17 am2. Given that employers, HR specifically, will have minimum cutoff standards it appears that several qualified candidates may not receive interviews.
3. As a person who has hired people, I would much rather hire someone that can learn quickly than a person who tests well but is unable to adapt to a given situation
4. How standardized can these tests really be? Seriously? The ACT/SAT/GMAT can hardly qualify as standardized tests anymore; if they could Kaplan wouldn’t be able to charge an arm and a leg for prep courses.
5. When are these tests going to be given? For full effect I assume it would be just after graduation when a graduate is screaming thank God almighty I’m free at last. Is it really fair to the recent graduate to force them to take a test in the drunken stupor that is the post graduation weeks? How will this effect them 10, 20 and 30 years down the road? Will this lead to low efficiency in the work place – I say yes.
Well sorry – comments really
12 years ago at 10:18 amThey can’t do that to our pledges, only we can do that to our pledges.
12 years ago at 1:52 pm