Cal Irvine’s Student Government Bans The American Flag From Being Hung, Deems It “Offensive”

California Irvine Bans American Flag

In recent years, “that’s offensive” has skyrocketed up my personal list of most reviled word combinations, right to the top. I mean, it shot straight past “Mom’s period is crazy heavy” and “Can we talk?” The inanity of the complaint “I’m offended,” and the sadly, predictably large and undue amount of attention it almost always receives, drives me nuts.

The student government at the University of California, Irvine just demonstrated exactly why every person, administrator, and campus population at large needs to seriously reevaluate the lens through which they view a person complaining about being offended. The ASUCI banned the hanging of the American flag in their office(s) in a recently passed resolution, because someone or some small group found our country’s flag offensive (or potentially offensive).

In the last week, on college campuses, a fundraiser for needy children was canceled indefinitely because someone was offended by the maracas on the poster promoting it, and the hanging of the American flag in a public office was banned because it could maybe, possibly be offensive to some people.

Let’s break down this resolution from Associated Students UCI (there are a few sics).

Item Number: 81 Legislation Number (B: Bill, R: Resolution): R50-70
Author: Matthew Guevara Second: Khaalidah Sidney
Synopsis: Flags and decoration adjustment for inclusivity
Date of Presentation: March 3rd, 2015

Whereas flags are a symbol of a nation, are used as decorations and have a wide range of cultural significance.

Whereas flags are typically viewed as patriotic symbols of a single nation, are often associated with government and military due to their history and have a wide variety of interpretations.

Whereas the traditional patriotic interpretation of a flag is a result of a nation and/or persons who encourage a nationalistic understanding of the flag.

Whereas traditional understandings and ideologies, as encouraged by the national government, include liberty, democracy, constitution values and are up for interpretation on constituents.

Whereas flags not only serve as symbols of patriotism or weapons for nationalism, but also construct cultural mythologies and narratives that in turn charge nationalistic sentiments.

It’s true, every time I see an American flag waving majestically in the wind, I completely forget what the Trail of Tears was, start shout-singing Toby Keith, and fart on the nearest person who is a nationality of a country the United States defeated in a war. All critical thinking is totally shut off.

Or, at least that’s what would happen if I were as dumb as the UC-Irvine student government assumes its students are.

Whereas flags function specifically for a nation and

Whereas people are assimilated into national ideologies by deployment of this cultural artifact.

Whereas flags construct paradigms of conformity and sets homogenized standards for others to obtain which in this country typically are idolized as freedom, equality, and democracy.

So…wait. You don’t want everyone to practice and support freedom, equality, and democracy? Even hipsters don’t hate conformity that much.

There’s a dent in my desk right now, where I just slammed my head into it while trying to figure out exactly how promoting equality is an aspect of the American flag’s offensiveness in the eyes of the UC-Irvine student government, especially since this resolution was written for the sake of all-inclusiveness. This is the type of paradigm you present to an antagonistic robot to make its head explode.

Whereas symbolism is interpreted differently by different groups or persons based on individual unique experiences.

Whereas a common ideological understanding of the United states includes American exceptionalism and superiority.

Whereas the American flag is commonly flown in government public service locations, military related entities, at homes, in foreign lands where the US government has a presence.

Whereas the American flag has been flown in instances of colonialism and imperialism.

How did California join the United States again?

Whereas symbolism has negative and positive aspects that are interpreted differently by individuals.

Whereas only the negative interpretations by individuals are the viewpoints to be paid attention to.

Whereas displaying a flag does not express only selective aspects of its symbolism but the entire spectrum of its interpretation.

Whereas designing a culturally inclusive space is taken seriously by ASUCI.

Whereas designing a culturally inclusive space aims to remove barriers that create undue effort and separation by planning and designing spaces that enable everyone to participate equally and confidently.

Whereas the removal of barriers is the best option at promoting an inclusive space.

I haven’t been so against the removal of a barrier since a homeless guy tried to rip the door off a public bathroom stall I was occupying at the same moment.

Whereas it is a psychological effect for individuals to identify negative aspects of a space rather than positive ones.

This is the worst part of the whole resolution. This isn’t inclusivity, it’s enabling. Worse, it’s babying, and it actively allows UC-Irvine students to be less effective communicators, and become less well-adjusted, less well-prepared adults. It’s a psychological effect for people to focus on the negative instead of the positive, I agree. For whatever reason, one negative comment I get on this site pisses me off more than two positive comments make me happy. But do you know what else I realize? That it’s stupid for me to think that way, and I get past it, because that “psychological effect” is just a reflex. Reflexive thinking (which is what taking offense almost always is, by the way) should not be rewarded in instances like this. There’s no nuance, no critical aspect of reflexive thinking such as this, and for these sorts of issues, that’s exactly what should be required. Instead, it’s emotional, and rarely do you get anything of value from it. You end up being made to cater to it, because it’s immature and fussy.

These people the ASUCI are catering to likely don’t have PTSD. They likely don’t have deep psychological issues with the American flag. More likely, the flag just makes them a little uncomfortable, like eating a burrito too fast, or the air-conditioning being a little too chilly. Well, put on a fucking sweater, so to speak. The ASUCI is literally encouraging UC-Irvine students to embrace their easily overcomeable intellectual and communication deficiencies. It’s telling them to embrace bad habits. Furthermore, it promotes close-mindedness by rewarding people who focus on the negative and ignoring those who focus on, or at least can identify, the positive. Only the negative matters to them.

Is the space where the ASUCI wants to have these open, inclusive discussions supposed to help students develop their communication and critical thinking skills within group discussions? If so, I can guarantee the students will be done a far greater service if they have to express themselves in a place they maybe aren’t totally comfortable in (that doesn’t mean unwelcome or devalued, just not totally comfortable) than one in which they are overly nurtured. You’re better off stepping into adult life with thick skin, and you’d be hard-pressed to find many adults who disagree with that.

Whereas whenever public spaces are produced and managed by narrow interests, they are bound to become exclusive places and

Whereas the planning process must be inclusive in such that designers are advised to forget about the ‘average’ user or themselves and instead begin the open space designing process with ‘deep knowledge’ of the preferences of the actual communities who are likely to use those spaces

According to this Facebook post from the student government president in response to the resolution — and the VAST majority of the comments — the communities’ preferences seem to favor the option of hanging (not even actually hanging it, JUST KEEPING ON THE TABLE THE OPTION OF HANGING) the flag.

But whatever, fuck what all these people who aren’t offended by the American flag say. The only voices that matter are the handful of people who are offended. Of course, now all these people are offended by the resolution…

My God!!!!!! WHO ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO LISTEN TO!??!?!

Whereas designers should be careful about using cultural symbols as the symbols will inherently remain open for interpretation.

Whereas once an open space is created, it is important to employ continual evaluation in order to understand changing use patterns and needs over time.

Whereas a high-quality culturally inclusive spaces is essential in any society that embodies a dynamic and multifaceted culture

Whereas freedom of speech is a valued right that ASUCI supports.

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA no.

Whereas freedom of speech, in a space that aims to be as inclusive as possible can be interpreted as hate speech.

So obviously, the most appropriate first response is to ban and censor instead of seek clarification. FREE SPEECH!

Let it be resolved that ASUCI make every effort to make the Associated Students main lobby space as inclusive as possible.

Let it further be resolved that no flag, of any nation, may be hanged on the walls of the Associate Student main lobby space.

Good. Because the other day, I took a BuzzFeed quiz that told me I was totes a Slytherin, and the Mexican flag, with the eagle eating the snake, offends the titty-fucking shit out of me now.

Let it be further be resolved that if a decorative item is in the Associate student lobby space and issues arise, the solution will be to remove the item if there is considerable request to do so.

I encourage every UC-Irvine fraternity to have each pledge handwrite a letter to the ASUCI claiming to be offended by time, because time killed their grandparents, and demand the removal of every calendar and clock in the office.

Referred to: Committee on:
Vote Required: Majority FINAL VOTE: Passed YEA: 6 NAY: 4 ABS: 2

THE LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL OF THE ASSOCIATED STUDENTS OF THE UNIVERSITY OF CALIFONIA, IRVINE ON THE DATE OF March 5th, 2015 HAS TAKEN ACTION ON THIS LEGISLATION.

Here’s hoping the kids who wrote this end up making a difference — that difference being that society, or at least the good people at UC-Irvine, start taking those who cry “I’m offended” infinitely less seriously.

      1. Spell Checker

        When I die I’ll die happy knowing that In a few thousand years California will be its own island.

        11 years ago at 6:30 pm
      2. TylerG

        I’m from CA, and while i think UC Irvine is retarded, if you wanna exclude CA from the nation, we’ll just take our 8th biggest economy, silicon valley, and hollywood, and leave your broke ass. Big fuck you from the Golden State, lets see how you get by without your iphone, google, and porn. Idiots.

        11 years ago at 1:08 am
      3. TylerG

        90% of that wank material in your bank is filmed right here in LA. The USA and the world would be fucking worthless without California. Come here on vacation sometime. I’ll enjoy my laps, all you wanna be scrubs from your shit towns and your going backwards states, good luck with that.

        11 years ago at 12:12 pm
      4. CrossbowCasanova

        America relies on plenty of other countries for tedious shit and we get by just fine. Keep your hair gel, emissions standards and shaky-cam porn. Fuck California.

        11 years ago at 1:27 pm
      5. koolklucksklan

        bro i live in the bay area and while i appreciate your enthusiasm for the golden state, you have to admit that the liberals are ruining this state. illegals are actually being allowed to obtain drivers licenses and basically get more rights than actual citizens without any of the burdens like paying taxes, etc. not to mention having to be politically correct to every fucking minority and group out there or risk getting bitched out every time you say anything that can be construed as being even remotely offensive. plus, your point about porn is pretty moot as people would just film it somewhere else.

        11 years ago at 10:35 pm
      6. Unchecked Privilege

        I just want to point out that this kid styles himself after Che Guevara. Che was a racist, socialist, sadist who was responsible for the genocide of thousands of people. He was the ultimate Douche Hipster- the son of a wealthy medical doctor who threw on a beret and praised Karl Marx.
        Che became such a genocidal monster that the U.S. sent a team from the 7th Special Forces Group to hunt him down in the mountains. They killed him and buried him in a shallow grave.

        God Bless the 7th Special Forces.

        11 years ago at 2:30 pm
      7. ZeteNJ

        He’s also now a hero to every campus Leftist, not just this kid. When your policies require extreme violence to enforce, such as socialism and communism, you’re fucking wrong.

        11 years ago at 7:06 pm
    1. Girthquake

      Everyone on this site should take a minute to write this piece of crap an e-mail explaining in a humane manner what a fucking idiot the president of the ASUCI is. We should not stand for crap like this anymore. I would love to see a TFM surge overloading this douchebag’s mailbox.

      11 years ago at 6:59 pm
      1. Rob Fox

        FWIW the president is against it. He had nothing to do with the resolution passing. And I think he’s going to try to get it repealed or whatever the nullification process is there.

        11 years ago at 8:54 pm
      2. Girthquake

        We know, in the article you wrote they told us to send e-mails to the presidents address. The President should be commended, I was just so heated in my response I inferred it was the president. The people who voted to approve the removal are a fucking disgrace.

        11 years ago at 9:37 pm
      3. Unchecked Privilege

        How about a special Rowdy Gent American Flag T-Shirt for this school?
        Btw, can you please go back to using Bacon? “Rob Fox” sounds like a guy from Missouri in middle management at an internet upstart company kind of name.

        11 years ago at 12:21 pm
      4. NorCal91

        Here is the email of the guy who proposed this and wrote that crap you just read
        mpguevar@uci.edu
        Send him your thoughts and then forward that email address to others.
        And yes I only made an account to relay this information. GOD BLESS AMERICA.

        11 years ago at 11:08 pm
      5. AKAK92

        I simply said people like you need to be taken out in a mass genocide… Well I no longer have a yahoo mail account due to terroristic threats…

        11 years ago at 11:04 pm
      6. UniversityGreys

        I made sure he understands how fucking moronic his student government is and how “potentially offended” I am.

        11 years ago at 11:21 pm
    2. ShmeepStar

      Whereas…this is extremely fucking illegal… H.R.42 – Freedom to Display the American Flag Act of 2005 – http://www.ushistory.org/betsy/more/hr42.htm

      (I get it doesn’t 100% directly apply to this situation, but I’m going to assume it does… you know, Pre-Law or something).
      I would imagine there are stricter guidelines for Government entities (E.g. public state universities).

      11 years ago at 10:58 pm
    3. 2hyped4u

      As an active duty Marine, I’m ashamed of Certain Americans for disrespecting the rights that my brother Marines, sailors, soldiers and airmen have fought and died to protect. Fucking liberals man damn

      11 years ago at 12:55 am
  1. Colonel Kilgore

    It’s interesting that they find the American flag offensive, but gladly accept the freedom and protection offered by those who salute the very same flag. I’d call them morons, but that would just be unnecessary.

    11 years ago at 5:42 pm
    1. SealTeamWhiskey

      How about the fact that these same people have no problem accepting government funding for its university, yet don’t want to fly that same government’s flag. TotalDoubleStandardMove.

      11 years ago at 11:35 pm
      1. Colonel Kilgore

        I mean, obviously. These people suck buffet-style. Get in line and take your pick of what you want to dislike.

        11 years ago at 1:14 am
  2. trw93

    I go to UC Irvine, and the students here other than the signers as well as myself agree that this is shameful.

    11 years ago at 5:45 pm
      1. FBR

        Do us all a favor get the biggest American flag you can find and fly it proudly on your house. If they ask you to take it down, inform them of the first amendment and tell them to shove a dick up their ass.

        11 years ago at 5:50 pm
      2. ShockTop

        Honestly what has this country come to when there’s a legitimate scenario that you would have to defend yourself for hanging a huge Anerican flag on your house?

        11 years ago at 6:18 pm
    1. John Templeton McCarty

      Seriously… Start an Old Glory Drive and have every house fly as many as they can and every person wear as much as they can. Hell carry one around with you on campus like a battle flag.

      Every flag they remove someone should adopt.

      11 years ago at 11:09 pm
  3. Dr. J-Whit

    Well I guess ISIS has infiltrated UC Irvine… This is just sad. It sets a dangerous precedent if this idea becomes widespread, that the minority can achieve something as vulgar as the banning of flying Old Glory.

    11 years ago at 5:47 pm
  4. HottyToddysd

    If the flag of the country you live and choose to go to school in “offends you” you might as well just pack up your bags and get the hell out of here

    11 years ago at 5:48 pm
  5. DaLegend

    Can we just not recognize California as a state anymore? It is a disgrace to our great country.

    11 years ago at 5:49 pm
      1. Ole English

        That’s because the majority of California are Ag producers. Not exactly left-wing types. Hollyweird gives us all a bad name

        11 years ago at 5:59 pm
      2. Ole English

        I know but idiots vote the way idiot libtard celebrities tell them to. Example: “OMG Kim K supports Obama, I’m totes gonna vote for him”- Some dumb ho. To sum it up people are fucking morons.

        11 years ago at 7:58 pm
      3. FrattinSince1839

        Not to mention that this happened in Orange County, a Republican/Conservative stronghold.

        11 years ago at 7:58 pm