If I lived during Nam you can be sure as shit I’d be doing the actual FIGHTING, not joining the do-nothing guard to avoid combat. I stand by my previous comment, definitely NF.
So you would never talk shit about Obama or Jimmy Carter? You’re in denial. I don’t know about your’s, but my frat values service to this country. Joining the military (the real kind, where you’re actually put in combat zones) during wartime should be an obligation for all true patriots. There’s no higher form of it, even towering over the honor of being commander in chief.
Well you didn’t sound like an idiot saying that it should be made mandatory to serve in combat. 1) This is a free country and the fact the we have the choice to serve or not is amazing. (I am not saying anything about people who are in the service.) 2) Obama took our national debt from $8tril to $14tril in two years so yea I’ll talk shit about him. Jimmy Carter caused gas shortages so once again yes I will talk shit about him. 3) George H.W. Bush was a Naval Aviator and a War hero, So was John McCain. Just because your not in combat does not mean anything. If it wasn’t for the air my great grandpa and great uncle would not have been able to storm the beaches of Iwo Jima and Guadalcanal. Finally you fought in Nam which was nothing compared to Korea, 2, 1, Span-Am, or in fact any real war. So do not sit there and talk about how you were in combat zones, because my uncle was in Nam and he was 1st Marine Division and said the combat was lame. So take your liberal, protesting, GDI ass off this website and go to a conspiracy blog. Good Day.
As a veteran from the W administration, I encourage you to shut the fuck up. You said yourself you have not been deployed or commissioned yet so until then you are just the same as the people you are talking shit to. Go grab a glass of makers and relax
Talking shit about Obama is different….he is the anti-christ, and a liberal piece shit of GDI. I completely agree with serving our country no matter who is in power. Frat values should go beyond this period in which our country had a lapse of judgement in voting Obama into power. BUT that does not mean we have to sit around quietly with our southern filters on sipping our bourbon.
However, talking poorly about W is another matter in itself. No southern gentleman in his right mind should ever question W. Thank you for serving our country but bless your heart for making that comment.
you kids talking about the national debt. It’s unfortunate that taxes will rise due to Obama’s shitforbrains plans. However, study the multiplier effect, and you’ll see that life will go on with Obama as President. All we have to do is explain to the liberals that the clothes on their backs can be attributed to the strength of capitalism at it’s finest.
I would prefer to have them shipped here instead of me being shipped over there. If ya know what I mean
George haze bush your a fucking idiot. The Vietnam war was the bloodiest war in Americas history so far. Some veterans are still affected by it emotionally or physically. I know your grand dad was there but one mans journey is never the same as someone elses. Christ people talking about politics on this site drives me insane.
1830 I do believe the Civil War.. you know the one when the northern states fought the southern states.. is still the bloodiest war in American history. Something like 600,000 Americans died, more than any other American war combined.
Wannabe Butter Bar Motard Liberal Know-it-all NF. I think that covered it. The other prior enlisted and myself hazed the fuck out of you kids at OCS, Greek or not. Stop awarding yourself for something you haven’t even done yet. It’s not a TFM, it’s annoying and degrading the quality of this website. Sorry to resurrect this, just overwhelmed with the nonsense.
I commission in May and you can be sure as shit I’ll be deploying ASAP, because there’s a fucking war going on. Fuck W, fuck Clinton, and fuck the rest of those draft dodgers. GOD BLESS THE USA AND GOD BLESS OUR VETERANS. TFM
I’d never enlist today. You know why? A stupid GDI named Obama is YOUR commander and chief.
Thank you for your service, but there will never be another world war between the super powers because of our economic interconnection. Therefore, the wars of the future will be fought on an economic front. I’ll be protecting America from a board room. W got us through 9/11, FaF in my book.
Really? You don’t have 3 years to spare commanding America’s finest? I plan on fighting on the economic front afterwards as well, accept unlike you I’ll go to the grave draped in the American Flag. TFM
Also, last time I checked the enemy we’re fighting killed over 3,000 Americans one day in September a while back. The first guarantor of freedom is and always will be the American soldier with an m16 at the ready. But yeah, thanks so much for taking a cushy seat in the board room.
I’ll bite. For the record I took the Oath of enlistment so I do have a vested interest in this.
Yes, Bush did join the ANG…however he did it as a fighter pilot. Is it different than being a grunt? Hell yeah, but flying fighter jets isn’t safe either. Ask the family of Capt Haney, a fighter pilot who tragically died in training last week. If you take W at his word, which I do, he tried to volunteer for flying in Vietnam but was denied the request. Did he sacrifice as much as say, John McCain? No. But he did a lot more than he had to. He could have just as easily landed an admin job or something equally as cushy but he didn’t.
The Frat Hatter you really need to calm down. There will not be another war, thanks to liberals who sent our jobs over seas. They have globalized the economy and no country will destroy their economy to fight a war. Especially since you can not fight a war with no money. I respect all of our soldiers but honestly soon wars will be fought from a chair not a rifle.
If you think wars will be found in a board room you are a moron. To many countries with nothing to lose like north Korea have WMDs. Were allies with south Korea and have 28,000 troops stationed there. If things go to shit there we will have to help south Korea, no doubt
As the population on earth multiplies the war for food and WATER will begin. I’m not saying military service is for everyone, but you will not be saving America from a board room. Ever.
Okay Mr. 1830, three things:
1. Grammar…
2. North Korea is obviously a communist state that doesn’t trade with the US. So yes, the US could potentially enter with North Korea. (I personally don’t think because Obama is too busy blaming Republicans for his faults and riding unicorns singing about change.) I think it would a brutal attack on Kim Jong-Il’s part to start that.
3. What everyone is saying you can’t seem to get is that globalization has interlocked our economy within the global economy. I honestly don’t see another world war with the super powers due to globalization.
i love w as much as the next guy, but every time i say so i have to do my best to forget about him dodging the draft. you can’t really argue that he didn’t, and that’s as gdi as it gets even if the rest of his life is faf. put me in heaven with a man who grew up poor and gave his life for america and a man who was born with the silver spoon, joined a fraternity and died old and comfortable and i know whose hand i’m shaking first. if that means this website isn’t for me…well, so be it.
Frathatter, get off your political speech, you read out of your history books and speak out of your ass. Some go to war, some dont…go do your duties you chose to do and get off TFM with your negativity to our world leaders. Any service to America…National Gaurd or Navy Seal is better than nothing so quit hating. Grow up!
I respect the soldiers more then anyone. But I agree with vanDKE, there won’t be another war where ground troops win it. It will be pilots and engineers and scientists making better weapon technology. I’m not going into the military due to health, but I damn well will contribute to the cause by making better technology to kill terrorists.
And even if W wasn’t in the hot and heavy of it, he was commander in chief and picked a fight with the entire middle east and is responsible for killing more terrorists then anyone so take a step back before you call him out on being NF and a coward.
FYI the term “soldier” only applies to the Army. If you’re trying to show support for the military as a whole, “troops” is the proper term. Not calling you out, just making sure you don’t make the same mistake since this was a damn good post. You’re very right and everyone needs to understand that the front lines are made possible due to many behind the scenes people. Who created those guns? Your war strategy? Who funded your uniforms? Your helmets? Who is there to nurse you back to health? To transport you? Guide you through training? No one military man is better than another. Each plays his part in protecting our country.
After serving 3 tours oversees, and looking at out future operations. The fronts will be in the horn of Africa. Yes, again that is a third world country that drives on unconventional warfare. Therefore, just like in Iraq and Afghanistan the war will be fought by the squad leaders, and the grunts on the ground. Not computers and bullshit, nothing is as good as real time eyes on the ground from the grunts that do it…your all wrong
Draft dodger coward. NF
14 years ago at 10:09 amshut the fuck up liberal. Just because he wasn’t a Green Beret doesn’t mean he dodged the draft. Bill Clinton on the other hand…..
14 years ago at 10:10 amIf being the leader of the most powerful country in the world is a coward, what are you? Oh yeah, NF and a giant IDIOT!
14 years ago at 10:25 amExactly. Shut the fuck up and go back to France, GDI.
14 years ago at 10:26 amHe joined the Texas Air Guard. How does that make him a coward? Talking out of your ass. NF.
14 years ago at 11:03 amIf I lived during Nam you can be sure as shit I’d be doing the actual FIGHTING, not joining the do-nothing guard to avoid combat. I stand by my previous comment, definitely NF.
14 years ago at 12:07 pmYou should take your liberal bullshit somewhere else. Talking shit about W means you are disrespecting America, and that sir is NF
14 years ago at 2:30 pmSo you would never talk shit about Obama or Jimmy Carter? You’re in denial. I don’t know about your’s, but my frat values service to this country. Joining the military (the real kind, where you’re actually put in combat zones) during wartime should be an obligation for all true patriots. There’s no higher form of it, even towering over the honor of being commander in chief.
14 years ago at 3:34 pmWell you didn’t sound like an idiot saying that it should be made mandatory to serve in combat. 1) This is a free country and the fact the we have the choice to serve or not is amazing. (I am not saying anything about people who are in the service.) 2) Obama took our national debt from $8tril to $14tril in two years so yea I’ll talk shit about him. Jimmy Carter caused gas shortages so once again yes I will talk shit about him. 3) George H.W. Bush was a Naval Aviator and a War hero, So was John McCain. Just because your not in combat does not mean anything. If it wasn’t for the air my great grandpa and great uncle would not have been able to storm the beaches of Iwo Jima and Guadalcanal. Finally you fought in Nam which was nothing compared to Korea, 2, 1, Span-Am, or in fact any real war. So do not sit there and talk about how you were in combat zones, because my uncle was in Nam and he was 1st Marine Division and said the combat was lame. So take your liberal, protesting, GDI ass off this website and go to a conspiracy blog. Good Day.
14 years ago at 4:31 pmWell, since joining the military during wartime is “an obligation for all true patriots” are you in the military or not a patriot?
14 years ago at 5:33 pmYes, haven’t deployed or anything like that yet, but I aim to do so asap. I joined because its the right thing to do and I love my country.
14 years ago at 6:09 pmAs a veteran from the W administration, I encourage you to shut the fuck up. You said yourself you have not been deployed or commissioned yet so until then you are just the same as the people you are talking shit to. Go grab a glass of makers and relax
14 years ago at 6:33 pmThe Frat Hatter-
Talking shit about Obama is different….he is the anti-christ, and a liberal piece shit of GDI. I completely agree with serving our country no matter who is in power. Frat values should go beyond this period in which our country had a lapse of judgement in voting Obama into power. BUT that does not mean we have to sit around quietly with our southern filters on sipping our bourbon.
However, talking poorly about W is another matter in itself. No southern gentleman in his right mind should ever question W. Thank you for serving our country but bless your heart for making that comment.
14 years ago at 8:27 pmI’m a veteran in the Middle East. If you’re a Vietnam vet you’re too fucking old for this site. Get a life, old man.
14 years ago at 11:05 pmyou kids talking about the national debt. It’s unfortunate that taxes will rise due to Obama’s shitforbrains plans. However, study the multiplier effect, and you’ll see that life will go on with Obama as President. All we have to do is explain to the liberals that the clothes on their backs can be attributed to the strength of capitalism at it’s finest.
I would prefer to have them shipped here instead of me being shipped over there. If ya know what I mean
14 years ago at 2:06 amGeorge haze bush your a fucking idiot. The Vietnam war was the bloodiest war in Americas history so far. Some veterans are still affected by it emotionally or physically. I know your grand dad was there but one mans journey is never the same as someone elses. Christ people talking about politics on this site drives me insane.
14 years ago at 5:51 pm1830 I do believe the Civil War.. you know the one when the northern states fought the southern states.. is still the bloodiest war in American history. Something like 600,000 Americans died, more than any other American war combined.
14 years ago at 6:46 pmWannabe Butter Bar Motard Liberal Know-it-all NF. I think that covered it. The other prior enlisted and myself hazed the fuck out of you kids at OCS, Greek or not. Stop awarding yourself for something you haven’t even done yet. It’s not a TFM, it’s annoying and degrading the quality of this website. Sorry to resurrect this, just overwhelmed with the nonsense.
14 years ago at 6:33 pmA liberal who obviously can’t read. Decision Points. If you can’t afford it get a library card GDI.
13 years ago at 6:53 pmWhat else can I say other than….FAF.
14 years ago at 10:09 amDont get me wrong, i love W. But he did use his dad and connections to dodge goin to war.
14 years ago at 10:36 amTFM
14 years ago at 11:15 pmhahaha such a TFM
14 years ago at 1:48 pmI commission in May and you can be sure as shit I’ll be deploying ASAP, because there’s a fucking war going on. Fuck W, fuck Clinton, and fuck the rest of those draft dodgers. GOD BLESS THE USA AND GOD BLESS OUR VETERANS. TFM
14 years ago at 12:10 pmthose are strong words. i take it then your fighting in the war going on now then
14 years ago at 1:07 pmShut the fuck up soon to be butter bar.
14 years ago at 1:30 pmI’d never enlist today. You know why? A stupid GDI named Obama is YOUR commander and chief.
Thank you for your service, but there will never be another world war between the super powers because of our economic interconnection. Therefore, the wars of the future will be fought on an economic front. I’ll be protecting America from a board room. W got us through 9/11, FaF in my book.
14 years ago at 2:43 pmI agree with the FratHatter
14 years ago at 3:30 pmReally? You don’t have 3 years to spare commanding America’s finest? I plan on fighting on the economic front afterwards as well, accept unlike you I’ll go to the grave draped in the American Flag. TFM
14 years ago at 3:35 pmAlso, last time I checked the enemy we’re fighting killed over 3,000 Americans one day in September a while back. The first guarantor of freedom is and always will be the American soldier with an m16 at the ready. But yeah, thanks so much for taking a cushy seat in the board room.
14 years ago at 3:43 pm“I’ll be protecting America from a board room.” FaF
14 years ago at 4:17 pmI’ll bite. For the record I took the Oath of enlistment so I do have a vested interest in this.
Yes, Bush did join the ANG…however he did it as a fighter pilot. Is it different than being a grunt? Hell yeah, but flying fighter jets isn’t safe either. Ask the family of Capt Haney, a fighter pilot who tragically died in training last week. If you take W at his word, which I do, he tried to volunteer for flying in Vietnam but was denied the request. Did he sacrifice as much as say, John McCain? No. But he did a lot more than he had to. He could have just as easily landed an admin job or something equally as cushy but he didn’t.
YMMV
14 years ago at 4:43 pmThe Frat Hatter you really need to calm down. There will not be another war, thanks to liberals who sent our jobs over seas. They have globalized the economy and no country will destroy their economy to fight a war. Especially since you can not fight a war with no money. I respect all of our soldiers but honestly soon wars will be fought from a chair not a rifle.
14 years ago at 6:33 pmSounds like you play too much call of duty
14 years ago at 6:34 pmExcuse me world war.
14 years ago at 6:34 pmIf you think wars will be found in a board room you are a moron. To many countries with nothing to lose like north Korea have WMDs. Were allies with south Korea and have 28,000 troops stationed there. If things go to shit there we will have to help south Korea, no doubt
As the population on earth multiplies the war for food and WATER will begin. I’m not saying military service is for everyone, but you will not be saving America from a board room. Ever.
14 years ago at 5:43 pmOkay Mr. 1830, three things:
14 years ago at 4:57 am1. Grammar…
2. North Korea is obviously a communist state that doesn’t trade with the US. So yes, the US could potentially enter with North Korea. (I personally don’t think because Obama is too busy blaming Republicans for his faults and riding unicorns singing about change.) I think it would a brutal attack on Kim Jong-Il’s part to start that.
3. What everyone is saying you can’t seem to get is that globalization has interlocked our economy within the global economy. I honestly don’t see another world war with the super powers due to globalization.
i love w as much as the next guy, but every time i say so i have to do my best to forget about him dodging the draft. you can’t really argue that he didn’t, and that’s as gdi as it gets even if the rest of his life is faf. put me in heaven with a man who grew up poor and gave his life for america and a man who was born with the silver spoon, joined a fraternity and died old and comfortable and i know whose hand i’m shaking first. if that means this website isn’t for me…well, so be it.
14 years ago at 4:41 pmSecond. Amen brother.
14 years ago at 10:35 pmYou, Mr. USA, are FaF
14 years ago at 1:44 amWell played sir…you are FAF
13 years ago at 11:59 pmFrathatter, get off your political speech, you read out of your history books and speak out of your ass. Some go to war, some dont…go do your duties you chose to do and get off TFM with your negativity to our world leaders. Any service to America…National Gaurd or Navy Seal is better than nothing so quit hating. Grow up!
14 years ago at 4:57 pmYou might mean Naval Reserve. The SEALs are FaF.
14 years ago at 11:44 amI respect the soldiers more then anyone. But I agree with vanDKE, there won’t be another war where ground troops win it. It will be pilots and engineers and scientists making better weapon technology. I’m not going into the military due to health, but I damn well will contribute to the cause by making better technology to kill terrorists.
14 years ago at 5:05 pmAnd even if W wasn’t in the hot and heavy of it, he was commander in chief and picked a fight with the entire middle east and is responsible for killing more terrorists then anyone so take a step back before you call him out on being NF and a coward.
FYI the term “soldier” only applies to the Army. If you’re trying to show support for the military as a whole, “troops” is the proper term. Not calling you out, just making sure you don’t make the same mistake since this was a damn good post. You’re very right and everyone needs to understand that the front lines are made possible due to many behind the scenes people. Who created those guns? Your war strategy? Who funded your uniforms? Your helmets? Who is there to nurse you back to health? To transport you? Guide you through training? No one military man is better than another. Each plays his part in protecting our country.
14 years ago at 10:37 pmWTF are you talking about, haven’t you played Call of Duty, all you need is one dude on the ground.
14 years ago at 1:45 pmAfter serving 3 tours oversees, and looking at out future operations. The fronts will be in the horn of Africa. Yes, again that is a third world country that drives on unconventional warfare. Therefore, just like in Iraq and Afghanistan the war will be fought by the squad leaders, and the grunts on the ground. Not computers and bullshit, nothing is as good as real time eyes on the ground from the grunts that do it…your all wrong
13 years ago at 12:05 amLaura Bush is Pro-Choise. NF
It has been questioned whether or not George W. Bush even attended drills while serving in the Air National Guard. NF
Prescott Sheldon Bush (George W’s Grandfather)served as the treasurer of the first national capital campaign of Planned Parenthood. NF
14 years ago at 6:51 pmPro-Choice*
14 years ago at 6:51 pmShut up.
14 years ago at 10:16 amNice Klan reference assbag.
14 years ago at 3:38 pmPlease stop criticizing W. We don’t appreciate it.
14 years ago at 4:38 amHere here, y’all need to go back to the dinner table.
14 years ago at 7:43 pmall of these comments are too long too read.
14 years ago at 9:37 pmAgreed. &I’m too pretty to read.
14 years ago at 10:55 pm