It has no lasting physical effects. Absolutely none. The effects are very temporary. It’s not torture.
The Germans also used guns in war…just like us…so fucking what?
The Japanese also used to cut off fingers and other extremities during questioning. Their brutality is what brought the death penalty on them, not waterboarding. Educate yourself, shit for brains.
there is no arguement, waterboarding is definitely torture. but who gives a shit? are we supposed to give terrorists deep tissue massages? fuck that. torture away!
Dont ever compare use to the Japs. Watch Philosophy of a Knife, then Shut the Fuck Up. Also, W. saw waterboarding as the least evasive means of extracting information. He himself was against torture, and stopped all forms of it, but found waterboarding acceptable b/c it doesn’t leave a lasting impact
Bless your heart frattisburg. Yukio Asano was convicted of war crimes against Americans. He waterboarded American prisoners of war, though he also beat them. Is kicking the shit out of someone torture? Is hazing torture? What sources do you have that prove waterboarding has no lasting psychological effects?
Anyone who talks about the “human rights” of terrorists needs to understand that these are people who would, if given the opportunity, murder your entire family in cold blood simply because they hate America.
things that im quite convicted arent attractive:
1. hitting wikipedia and then transferring that new found knowledge of japanese war criminals to a TFM post
2. shoving “bless your heart” into every fucking sentence
3. questioning American methods
4. trying way, way too hard.
Actually Frattiesburg, I may be wrong but, I think that waterboarding is the reason that John McCain can’t raise his arms all the way up. I am definitely not against torturing terrorist fucks. Therefore Grody.. I hate you.
His shoulders were broken from being smashed into the ground by the butt of a rifle. They beat the shit out of him on a daily basis, which is a lot worse than water-boarding.
And yet he didn’t give up any information, because he’s an American. And we don’t give in to the enemy.
And I didn’t mean for that to sound confrontational towards you, I just wanted to show these other folks that water-boarding is the least of a prisoner’s worries.
My grandfather spent a year in a Japanese POW camp, they burned him, shattered his knee, shoved bamboo chutes in his fingernails and beat the shit out of him. He called water boarding a” break”. Just a little perspective that I’ve heard from someone whose actually lived through it
Guys stop getting away from the point with this meaningless argument about if Water Boarding is actually torture. Let’s get this terrorist geed Grody off of TFM and onto totalgdimove where he fuckin belongs
321south shoulda won, tell your grandfather thank you for what he did. sounds like a great American. with that said Grody, saying things like that on this site just to be annoying=NF
Hazing pledges could be considered “torture”, and terrorists are even worse than pledges. So it’s definitely okay to haze some terrorist balls. No bigger geed than a terrorist.
I hope one of yall one day get accused of being a terrorist, and then see if what we do is acceptable. As conservative as I am, giving up your principles so easily gives you 0 credibility.
Remember, the aristocrats of France thought their reign would last forever too.
Just for all you idiots who were not required to learn anything about the founding of the Greek system, most top tier fraternities were founded in the north. That point being said, the South just took a good idea and perfected it as always. So the North is frat in my book for putting the ball in motion, but the South once again, and always will be FAF.
No. That title still belongs to Theodore Roosevelt.
14 years ago at 3:45 pmDifferent sort of sporting, but yes.
14 years ago at 4:40 pmSecond.
14 years ago at 4:45 pmSir Proper, you are smart man.
14 years ago at 4:47 pmWhile on Safari in Africa, Roosevelt and crew killed or trapped over 11,000 animals, 506 of them big game. They ate 250+ of those. FaF.
14 years ago at 5:04 pmwhat about G. Ford? he played football at Michigan
14 years ago at 5:18 pmKiawah Island, best beach in S. Carolina. Good choice in name.
14 years ago at 5:49 pmExactly what I thought. Good call, Sir Proper
14 years ago at 9:20 pmTeddy Roosevelt was a progressive and hurt big business= NF
14 years ago at 11:16 pmSo handsome!
14 years ago at 4:01 pmoh my gosh agreed!
14 years ago at 5:18 pmAlso agreed!
14 years ago at 12:18 amSooooooooo handsome!!!!
14 years ago at 12:35 amFord played football at Michigan.
14 years ago at 4:07 pmO-line doesn’t count
14 years ago at 8:29 pmAnd 1st base does?
14 years ago at 10:28 pmO-line=FaF
14 years ago at 1:09 amWar criminal.
14 years ago at 4:33 pmGet the fuck out of here you Democrat geed.
14 years ago at 5:34 pmI would call you a geed, but I think ‘terrorist’ is more appropriate.
14 years ago at 5:47 pmmotion to have Grody kicked off of TFM
14 years ago at 5:56 pmYou can call him both. he’s both a geed and a terrorist.
14 years ago at 6:27 pmsecond to the motion
14 years ago at 6:44 pmI would personally water board you.
14 years ago at 6:55 pmWaterboarding is simply an effective means of extracting useful intelligence from crazed, yet ignorant terrorist pieces of shit.
I don’t see the problem.
14 years ago at 7:00 pmThe United States hanged Japanese soldiers who used waterboarding against American prisoners of war. The German Gestapo also used waterboarding.
If you think torture is acceptable, so be it. But no matter how you spin it, waterboarding is torture.
14 years ago at 7:09 pmIt has no lasting physical effects. Absolutely none. The effects are very temporary. It’s not torture.
The Germans also used guns in war…just like us…so fucking what?
The Japanese also used to cut off fingers and other extremities during questioning. Their brutality is what brought the death penalty on them, not waterboarding. Educate yourself, shit for brains.
14 years ago at 7:13 pmthere is no arguement, waterboarding is definitely torture. but who gives a shit? are we supposed to give terrorists deep tissue massages? fuck that. torture away!
14 years ago at 7:20 pmDont ever compare use to the Japs. Watch Philosophy of a Knife, then Shut the Fuck Up. Also, W. saw waterboarding as the least evasive means of extracting information. He himself was against torture, and stopped all forms of it, but found waterboarding acceptable b/c it doesn’t leave a lasting impact
14 years ago at 7:30 pmBless your heart frattisburg. Yukio Asano was convicted of war crimes against Americans. He waterboarded American prisoners of war, though he also beat them. Is kicking the shit out of someone torture? Is hazing torture? What sources do you have that prove waterboarding has no lasting psychological effects?
At least rooster cogburn has conviction.
14 years ago at 7:33 pmWater boarding is torture? Go to SERE, where you will realize you’re full of shit with that statement.
14 years ago at 8:17 pmAnyone who talks about the “human rights” of terrorists needs to understand that these are people who would, if given the opportunity, murder your entire family in cold blood simply because they hate America.
14 years ago at 8:21 pmthings that im quite convicted arent attractive:
14 years ago at 8:28 pm1. hitting wikipedia and then transferring that new found knowledge of japanese war criminals to a TFM post
2. shoving “bless your heart” into every fucking sentence
3. questioning American methods
4. trying way, way too hard.
Actually Frattiesburg, I may be wrong but, I think that waterboarding is the reason that John McCain can’t raise his arms all the way up. I am definitely not against torturing terrorist fucks. Therefore Grody.. I hate you.
14 years ago at 8:37 pmSEC Fratter, you are indeed wrong. Read this:
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/world/mccains-account-of-viet-cong-torture/story-e6frf7lx-1111115686152
His shoulders were broken from being smashed into the ground by the butt of a rifle. They beat the shit out of him on a daily basis, which is a lot worse than water-boarding.
And yet he didn’t give up any information, because he’s an American. And we don’t give in to the enemy.
14 years ago at 8:50 pmAnd I didn’t mean for that to sound confrontational towards you, I just wanted to show these other folks that water-boarding is the least of a prisoner’s worries.
14 years ago at 8:51 pmEither way..Grody needs to be blackballed
14 years ago at 9:23 pmI wasn’t completely sure. Thanks Fratlunteer. Either way, I hate you Grody.
14 years ago at 9:38 pmMy grandfather spent a year in a Japanese POW camp, they burned him, shattered his knee, shoved bamboo chutes in his fingernails and beat the shit out of him. He called water boarding a” break”. Just a little perspective that I’ve heard from someone whose actually lived through it
14 years ago at 9:52 pmGuys stop getting away from the point with this meaningless argument about if Water Boarding is actually torture. Let’s get this terrorist geed Grody off of TFM and onto totalgdimove where he fuckin belongs
14 years ago at 9:57 pmSaying liberal comments on one of the most conservative websites on Internet. NF. Fuck off Grody.
14 years ago at 11:32 pm321south shoulda won, tell your grandfather thank you for what he did. sounds like a great American. with that said Grody, saying things like that on this site just to be annoying=NF
14 years ago at 12:18 amHazing pledges could be considered “torture”, and terrorists are even worse than pledges. So it’s definitely okay to haze some terrorist balls. No bigger geed than a terrorist.
14 years ago at 3:51 amAll in favor of kicking Grody off TFM say “aye”
14 years ago at 7:18 amTaking the internet seriously. NF.
14 years ago at 10:25 amDiamond Darling- love your name
14 years ago at 10:30 amI hope one of yall one day get accused of being a terrorist, and then see if what we do is acceptable. As conservative as I am, giving up your principles so easily gives you 0 credibility.
14 years ago at 2:58 pmRemember, the aristocrats of France thought their reign would last forever too.
You’re comparing Yale to Michigan?
14 years ago at 5:48 pmI don’t think they are comparing, just stating that another President played football for a prestigious school.
14 years ago at 6:49 pmTo be fair as far as athletics go playing baseball at yale isn’t as impressive as playing football at michigan.
14 years ago at 5:33 pmtoo bad Michigan’s football team always loses to Ohio State…
14 years ago at 6:49 pmi’d shack with that.
14 years ago at 6:36 pmamen.
14 years ago at 6:37 pmHis son being a cheerleader- TSM.
14 years ago at 7:04 pmThe Simpsons hazing GHWB-FaF
Me hazing you-FaF
14 years ago at 7:10 pmPresident of the United States of America > than being a Simpson
14 years ago at 10:03 pmWinning civil wars you are so fucking stupid and clearly dwell on the past.
14 years ago at 12:09 ama cheerleader at andover…. a little different shit head
14 years ago at 12:28 amYou know they say had he not followed politics he would have been the Babe Ruth of his time…
14 years ago at 7:15 pmyale = north = NF…..Bush = NF
14 years ago at 8:16 pmI don’t think you want to go there. Of all the GDI stupid shit to be said in the comments of this site, this takes the cake.
14 years ago at 8:27 pmGo suck Al Gore’s dick
14 years ago at 8:29 pmyall are hypocrites. saying north is NF and then saying bush is frat…..shut the fuck up. Bush and yale are about as NF as you can get….fuck bush
14 years ago at 8:39 pmBush quickly learned and came down to Texas.
14 years ago at 9:21 pmBush was FaF before he went to Texas, so that’s just ignorant… hogs is either a GDI or poor or both
14 years ago at 9:52 pmlooks like somebody didn’t benefit from his tax cuts.
14 years ago at 10:11 pmThe ever so common North South debate. This is stupid. And Bush is up there with Reagan and JFK for being FAF
14 years ago at 11:28 pmhogs….you’re an idiot
14 years ago at 11:55 pmMotion to blackball hogs
14 years ago at 12:44 amballs to the wahl: Bush raised taxes…thats why he wasn’t reelected. Amazing president thought. Set that geed clinton up for a great economy.
14 years ago at 3:45 amjust misspelled a few words…don’t judge, im hammered.
14 years ago at 3:46 amJust for all you idiots who were not required to learn anything about the founding of the Greek system, most top tier fraternities were founded in the north. That point being said, the South just took a good idea and perfected it as always. So the North is frat in my book for putting the ball in motion, but the South once again, and always will be FAF.
14 years ago at 4:27 amYour name must be the type of girls you get..
14 years ago at 9:10 pmHogs, I bet you’re a GEED.
14 years ago at 6:40 pmNever getting passed first base. NF.
14 years ago at 8:34 pmLaughed out loud when I read this
14 years ago at 9:17 pmDamn Slampieces….beat me to it. Nice move sir
14 years ago at 9:54 pmlaughing out loud = NF
14 years ago at 10:18 pmYes, giggling quiet is FaF though.
Laughing out loud is for geeds at the Dane Cook show.
14 years ago at 12:34 pmWho are you kidding? Nobody laughs at Dane Cook.
14 years ago at 11:21 pm