We need reality to be like one of those 80’s action movies – the country’s in trouble, and an old Army general tracks down W. at his ranch to convince him to come out of retirement, kick ass and save the day.
W. was a great president. its not his fault that the god damn terrorists decided to pull some bullshit on 9/11. after that attack he used money to prevent that from happening again. let me ask you, after 9/11 was there another terrorist attack on American soil?
W. i s the man we need to be rid of this Obama clown the two year experiment has turned out to be a failure… Rick Perry needs to come in and show the rest of the World what a great country America is… Im sure he has got a pair of ray bans as well.
Last President to pay of the National Debt? Andrew Jackson. Coincidence that he’s one of Sterling Coopers heroes? All US Presidents have sucked but THAT guy, and maybe Reagan.
I am all for supporting your respective political party; however, have a damn argument when you present your case. Most of the fools posting about Bush do not know a thing about Bush, or politics/the republican party in general (other then that fact that their dad may be a part of it). Bush setup the playing field for the debt crisis we stand in today. According to numerous reports and the US Debt National Chart, Bush created 7 trillion in debt over his term compared to Obamas 1.4 trillion. While my values are in the republican party, they cannot run this country for shit in the time being. Many of you claim Bush is the hero; if by hero you mean tripling are debt, unemployment rate, then yes, have him back, he is a hero (who also happened to get C’s in college and probably failed his public speaking class). Its a pretty simple concept for anyone who has taken a beginning finance course: You have X dollars coming in, You can only spend X dollars. Otherwise, you fold.
I completely agree. W is my brother and I thought he was a bad president but he is a badass individual regardless. I also don’t blame him for a lot of the problems though. He was a puppet for the other, slightly more politically apt, people in his cabinet.
Actually perhaps you should think about your argument iParty – it’s undisputed that Obama has created more debt, pro rata, in his time in office than Bush ever did. Moreover, Bush didn’t start this debt ball rolling. That would be Carter, or if you want to really get technical, FDR. I’m not supporting Bush’s policy but there’s a large fallacy in your reasoning.
I agree. Bush is a badass with great Texas twang. I would love to rage with him any day of the week. With that being said he was not the best president. He put our country that i love into a horrible predicament. It is because of him that we are in this deficit and partly because of him the major banks had so much freedom to leverage the shit out of horrible housing deals to cause a bubble so great once it burst tanked our economy. I no way shape or form am i defending that idiot obama. he is an idiot, but before you blindly say W is what we need in our troubled state is horribly and sadly mistaken. talk to any educated successful adult and they will tell you beside the great tax break he screwed us.
I respect the man for his service and attempts at doing what he felt was best for our country, none-the-less he still had poor performance. “Success” instead of stating my argument is invalid (which I have clearly backed with statistics), you should try backing your argument with reasoning next time. If you are going to make such claims as “undisputed” well, quite frankly, I completely disputed your entire argument previously and proved you wrong. “sperridise” you should follow politics more, considering the house is controlled by republicans and both them and the senate voted on raising the debt ceiling. Also, Bush did increase our debt ceiling. Nice try bud. Good day, gentlemen.
Really iParty? Statistics? You cited numbers and by no means “proved” anyone wrong. Oh and by the way, your numbers are in fact wrong. To put your inaccuricies into perspective, when President Bush took office, our national debt was $5.768 trillion. By the time Bush left office, it had nearly doubled, to $10.626 trillion, not the $7trilloin plus you cite. So Bush’s record on deficit spending was not good at all: During his presidency, the national debt rose by an average of $607 billion a year. How does that compare to Obama? During Obama’s presidency to date, the national debt has risen by an average of $1.723 trillion a year — or by a jaw-dropping $1.116 trillion more, per year, than it rose even under Bush. That enough staistics for ya champ?
W. was a great president. its not his fault that the god damn terrorists decided to pull some bullshit on 9/11. after that attack he used money to prevent that from happening again. let me ask you, after 9/11 was there another terrorist attack on American soil?
Its hard not to run up the debt when you’re committed to wars. Before 9/11, W was poised to be the best business president this country had ever seen. It’s too bad that he never had the opportunity, or that he never took it. Either way, as a person W. is FaF.
“Success” Your arguments are moronic and ill informed. You remind me of the guys who try to argue the thesis of a book by reading its cover, you really have no understanding as to its contents. In no way did I ever say Obama is the savior, I simply pointed out that Bush is far from one. Most of our debt today can be attributed to Bush’s 8 year term and plans that he had set in place. The extra debt and burden taking place today is mostly due to the recession Obama inherited. Obama inherited the worst economy since the great depression due to numerous unfounded and prolonged spending in military and tax breaks (hard to give tax breaks when you do not have the funds to do so). Obamas stimulous, if you would do some simple research, saved our nation from a much larger and potentially catastrophic debt rise and unemployment rate (again due to the economy he inherited)..If simple reasoning doesnt work for you, here are some more in-depth numbers that takes a little more than a “yahoo-answers” search, to put your so called statistics into perspective..Estimated cost of the Iraq wars=3.7 trillion (Brown study), and do not pull the 9/11 excuse for this, that was Afghanistan buddy. TheBush tax breaks also cost almost 3 trillion (note this a total amount, as reported by the Washington Post). Add those to your so called stats, and you can do the math..
And I never claimed Bush was a savior, I was pointing out that your “statistics” were wrong. You can name call all you’d like sport, you were wrong. In fact the numbers I cited are from the Economist, not some obviously incorrect website you half-assedly looked up. I’m not supporting Bush’s every decision, I simply pointed out your reasoning was shallow and misleading with incorrect numbers. How precisely is that “moronic” and”ill-informed”? Obama is building debt far faster than Bush ever did. And the economic mess we’re in right now cannot be pinned only on Bush, as you’d like. Bush didn’t help but he didn’t create it either. Perhaps you should actually read some history rather than spouting rhetoric.
Read decision points before you talk about W’s spending policies, also, Obama has done that in only 3 short years, if (God help us all) he gets reelected, im sure he will give W a run for his money
Success-Again you offered no evidence or counterclaims, mere opinion. If by spouting rhetoric you mean relaying facts outlined by numerous financial firms as I have displayed..yes I am spouting rhetoric (maybe you should have a better understanding of theterms you use)..Side note: I cannot add numbers? You have failed to do so yet again, good sir. If you would add the projected costs of the Iraq war and Bush’s tax cuts (which are generally not included in your google-search facts) you would find the numbers are far greater than our current presidents’. If you want to argue politics we all know The Economist is far-right in their beliefs, and generally unusable for factual information. Do everyone a favor and read a book or two, champ.
Again sport, you’re just spouting what is turning out to be liberal rhetoric (and yeah sweetheart, I do know what that means, see, I graduated college, and law school for that matter) and simply asserting that you’re correct. Your numbers are flat out wrong. There is no evidence that Bush created $7 trillion while serving. I see you’re “adding in” the expectant costs of the war in Iraq. That’s specious and you know it. I could go back and add in the expectant cost of FDR’s programs as well or the cost of other Obama programs (e.g. Obamacare) but that’s not the point. The simple truth is that while unequivocally the federal debt did increase by approximately $5 trillion on President George W. Bush’s watch, it did not increase at remotely the same rate it is increasing under President Obama. In fact, borrowing under President Obama is occurring at over 2.5x President Bush’s rate. During his eight fiscal years, Bush ran up a total of $3.283 trillion in deficit spending. In his first two fiscal years, Obama will run up a total of $2.826 trillion in deficit spending ($1.294 trillion in 2010, an estimated $1.267 trillion in 2011, and the $265 billion in “stimulus” money that was spent in 2009). Thus, Bush ran up an average of $410 billion in deficit spending per year, while Obama is running up an average of $1.413 trillion in deficit spending per year — or $1.003 trillion a year more than Bush.
Obama, of course, has said the economy made him do it. But the average inflation-adjusted deficits through Obama’s first two fiscal years will be more than ten times higher than the average inflation-adjusted deficit during the Great Depression. Even as a percentage of the gross domestic product, the average deficits in Obama’s first two fiscal years will more than three times higher the average deficit during the Great Depression. The fact that Obama’s deficits have, by any standard, more than tripled those of the Great Depression, cannot convincingly be blamed on the current recession.
And none of this even takes into account Obamacare, which the Congressional Budget Office says would increase spending by more than $2 trillion in its real first decade (2014 to 2023) — and which, even under your liberal rosy projections, the CBO says would increase the national debt by $341 billion by the end of 2019. And those numbers come from the Standard and The Daily Congressional Record sport…not the Republican party.
I appreciate your liberal eco 101 viewpoint but it’s wrong, no matter how superior you think you are. And maybe it’s you that might want to do some reading, outside the liberal press that is. Hope you do your school homework more thoroughly than you do here.
I apologize to the readers for having to go through all this but I’m tired of this holier-than-thou douche spouting off this liberal bullshit. I’m done, as you were.
Champ, if you wish to make the claim I am speaking liberal rhetoric you are sadly mistaken (And the obvious argument could be made that all you are speaking is conservative rhetoric..). My values are in the republican party; however, I choose my candidates on a case-by-case basis on how they will perform-from a BUSINESS perspective. Again, you are making the same claims many far right individuals make, ill-informed opinions that they hear from either a talk show or dad around the dinner table. If you wish to relate our current economy to past terms (as you stated) here is a fun fact: When Bush took office, according to the CBO (which you enjoy using) our Economy was projected to have a surplues of over $800 billion. You can do the math (I hope)..On another note, I agree Obama’s performance is not up to par; however, if you read my other posts, it is not nearly as bad (so far) as Bush’s. You keep mentioning the debt he is bringing, however, most of this can be attributed to Bush policies in which Obama continued. If Obama did not pass the stimulus, 2 million jobs would not have been created, and much more spending would not have taken place by consumers. (Again, simple business, you have to invest money to reap the benefits later.. as observed in the great depression and time and time again over the years), So the deficit would have been much larger (again, Obama did not have a choice, as he inherited a distressed nation). If you would do some research champ, you would learn the the war and tax breaks under Bush were not included in his spending analysis (as he used emergency funding for said practices),so you you are correct, his spending did not leave a 7 trillion dollar deficit, it was much larger. You state that there is no evidence to this? Bud, the war has been taking place for years..it is not “projected” to take place!Obamacare cannot be factored into this argument given for the simple reason it has not taken place yet, and for every source you give of it causing more debt..there are equal sources to give that state it will save money. Either way our current healthcare system need reform and this is a start (as Medicare, Medicaid, SS, will be long gone in the future). Otherwise our spending would be astronomical to cover these programs.. Also, the spending cannot be accurately compared to the financial surroundings of the great depression do to the simple fact that our economies were FAR different at the time in regards to products and spending..I’m not going to elaborate, for someone who has gone through”law school” you should know this..Now for Obama’s shortcomings, the stimulus failed. This is the only realy major spending that can be attributed to his name. The rest were remenants of the Bush era. Obama should have done more to cut spending from day one, as he had stated he would do (given that Bush rose military spending to nearly the same spending as WWII for an irrelevant war (save this for another argument). Obama failed to reduce this spending, and to reimplement the taxes (2 trillion) that we lost.. You state that you appreciate my “eco 101” point of view, thanks, I appreciate it, now go take a class in economics. I never said I was far left or support Obama as you whole-heartedly assert. I merely look at this from a business perspective and from a neutral perspective. I understand BOTH sides and see the weaknesses within. Bush would only make our economy worse (given this initial post was about how we need him back). Before being quick to make false assumptions, you should understand both the argument and the background before speaking. From your tone I gather that you are from a small southern town who basis their political beliefs on what others around you say. I suggest you do some research and learn to formulate your own “eco 101” viewpoint champ. That is all, I am done..I have raging to do and quite honestly, I would rather go argue with my sperry than continue this. Good day.
You make some valid point, and some I just believe are dead wrong. I do not believe that Obama is doing much of anything, espcially after all of his empty campaign promises, to help the debt situation. Nor do I believe you can simply say Obama is just carrying on Bush’s policies. That’s just silly. As to your personal attacks, I graduated summa with a degree in eco, graduated from law school coif from SMU and live in a liberal stronghold – Portland, Oregon. So you’re dead wrong. As I said before, I’m done with this, we disagree on some central points even though I do agree with you in a lot of ways. I just don’t let personal attacks go unnoticed. Rage on and take it easy on the personal attacks and the “I’m always right” attitude.
and a hand made suit, though it does not appear to be an Oxxford.
14 years ago at 11:09 amW, the country needs you! Obama sucks!
14 years ago at 11:50 amWe need reality to be like one of those 80’s action movies – the country’s in trouble, and an old Army general tracks down W. at his ranch to convince him to come out of retirement, kick ass and save the day.
14 years ago at 11:53 amWe need the W from Harold and Kumar’s Guantanamo Bay.
14 years ago at 12:27 pm^this and ^that
14 years ago at 2:21 pmW. was a great president. its not his fault that the god damn terrorists decided to pull some bullshit on 9/11. after that attack he used money to prevent that from happening again. let me ask you, after 9/11 was there another terrorist attack on American soil?
14 years ago at 6:13 pmUhhhhhh no one was arguing with you about W being a good president you retard.^
14 years ago at 7:47 amW. i s the man we need to be rid of this Obama clown the two year experiment has turned out to be a failure… Rick Perry needs to come in and show the rest of the World what a great country America is… Im sure he has got a pair of ray bans as well.
14 years ago at 2:25 pmRon Paul 2012
14 years ago at 2:26 pmLast President to pay of the National Debt? Andrew Jackson. Coincidence that he’s one of Sterling Coopers heroes? All US Presidents have sucked but THAT guy, and maybe Reagan.
14 years ago at 4:16 pmToo hung over to click the right box. TFTC. But that belongs to the strain below me or w/e the fuck theyre called
14 years ago at 4:18 pmYou are one of those homes who following Sterling Cooper as if he was christ. I sure feel bad for you
14 years ago at 7:27 pmI am all for supporting your respective political party; however, have a damn argument when you present your case. Most of the fools posting about Bush do not know a thing about Bush, or politics/the republican party in general (other then that fact that their dad may be a part of it). Bush setup the playing field for the debt crisis we stand in today. According to numerous reports and the US Debt National Chart, Bush created 7 trillion in debt over his term compared to Obamas 1.4 trillion. While my values are in the republican party, they cannot run this country for shit in the time being. Many of you claim Bush is the hero; if by hero you mean tripling are debt, unemployment rate, then yes, have him back, he is a hero (who also happened to get C’s in college and probably failed his public speaking class). Its a pretty simple concept for anyone who has taken a beginning finance course: You have X dollars coming in, You can only spend X dollars. Otherwise, you fold.
14 years ago at 3:02 pmgo to hell.
14 years ago at 3:28 pmI completely agree. W is my brother and I thought he was a bad president but he is a badass individual regardless. I also don’t blame him for a lot of the problems though. He was a puppet for the other, slightly more politically apt, people in his cabinet.
14 years ago at 3:32 pmActually perhaps you should think about your argument iParty – it’s undisputed that Obama has created more debt, pro rata, in his time in office than Bush ever did. Moreover, Bush didn’t start this debt ball rolling. That would be Carter, or if you want to really get technical, FDR. I’m not supporting Bush’s policy but there’s a large fallacy in your reasoning.
14 years ago at 3:49 pmAnd which party is it that didn’t want to raise the debt ceiling? Oh right, the Republicans.
14 years ago at 3:53 pmiParty…. Tripling our* debt
14 years ago at 3:54 pmI agree. Bush is a badass with great Texas twang. I would love to rage with him any day of the week. With that being said he was not the best president. He put our country that i love into a horrible predicament. It is because of him that we are in this deficit and partly because of him the major banks had so much freedom to leverage the shit out of horrible housing deals to cause a bubble so great once it burst tanked our economy. I no way shape or form am i defending that idiot obama. he is an idiot, but before you blindly say W is what we need in our troubled state is horribly and sadly mistaken. talk to any educated successful adult and they will tell you beside the great tax break he screwed us.
RON PAUL 2012
14 years ago at 4:00 pmI respect the man for his service and attempts at doing what he felt was best for our country, none-the-less he still had poor performance. “Success” instead of stating my argument is invalid (which I have clearly backed with statistics), you should try backing your argument with reasoning next time. If you are going to make such claims as “undisputed” well, quite frankly, I completely disputed your entire argument previously and proved you wrong. “sperridise” you should follow politics more, considering the house is controlled by republicans and both them and the senate voted on raising the debt ceiling. Also, Bush did increase our debt ceiling. Nice try bud. Good day, gentlemen.
14 years ago at 4:03 pm“Call me sir” well said, sir. Agreed.
14 years ago at 4:05 pmObama has added 4.6 trillion to the national debt in three years iParty you fucking retard.
14 years ago at 4:28 pmReally iParty? Statistics? You cited numbers and by no means “proved” anyone wrong. Oh and by the way, your numbers are in fact wrong. To put your inaccuricies into perspective, when President Bush took office, our national debt was $5.768 trillion. By the time Bush left office, it had nearly doubled, to $10.626 trillion, not the $7trilloin plus you cite. So Bush’s record on deficit spending was not good at all: During his presidency, the national debt rose by an average of $607 billion a year. How does that compare to Obama? During Obama’s presidency to date, the national debt has risen by an average of $1.723 trillion a year — or by a jaw-dropping $1.116 trillion more, per year, than it rose even under Bush. That enough staistics for ya champ?
14 years ago at 4:44 pmCiting wrong statistics. NF.
14 years ago at 5:24 pmW. was a great president. its not his fault that the god damn terrorists decided to pull some bullshit on 9/11. after that attack he used money to prevent that from happening again. let me ask you, after 9/11 was there another terrorist attack on American soil?
14 years ago at 6:14 pmIts hard not to run up the debt when you’re committed to wars. Before 9/11, W was poised to be the best business president this country had ever seen. It’s too bad that he never had the opportunity, or that he never took it. Either way, as a person W. is FaF.
14 years ago at 6:34 pm“Success” Your arguments are moronic and ill informed. You remind me of the guys who try to argue the thesis of a book by reading its cover, you really have no understanding as to its contents. In no way did I ever say Obama is the savior, I simply pointed out that Bush is far from one. Most of our debt today can be attributed to Bush’s 8 year term and plans that he had set in place. The extra debt and burden taking place today is mostly due to the recession Obama inherited. Obama inherited the worst economy since the great depression due to numerous unfounded and prolonged spending in military and tax breaks (hard to give tax breaks when you do not have the funds to do so). Obamas stimulous, if you would do some simple research, saved our nation from a much larger and potentially catastrophic debt rise and unemployment rate (again due to the economy he inherited)..If simple reasoning doesnt work for you, here are some more in-depth numbers that takes a little more than a “yahoo-answers” search, to put your so called statistics into perspective..Estimated cost of the Iraq wars=3.7 trillion (Brown study), and do not pull the 9/11 excuse for this, that was Afghanistan buddy. TheBush tax breaks also cost almost 3 trillion (note this a total amount, as reported by the Washington Post). Add those to your so called stats, and you can do the math..
14 years ago at 7:05 pmAnd I never claimed Bush was a savior, I was pointing out that your “statistics” were wrong. You can name call all you’d like sport, you were wrong. In fact the numbers I cited are from the Economist, not some obviously incorrect website you half-assedly looked up. I’m not supporting Bush’s every decision, I simply pointed out your reasoning was shallow and misleading with incorrect numbers. How precisely is that “moronic” and”ill-informed”? Obama is building debt far faster than Bush ever did. And the economic mess we’re in right now cannot be pinned only on Bush, as you’d like. Bush didn’t help but he didn’t create it either. Perhaps you should actually read some history rather than spouting rhetoric.
14 years ago at 8:28 pmSorry, almost forgot – add that to your incorrect numbers and you can do the math…oh no wait, you can’t.
14 years ago at 8:31 pmRead decision points before you talk about W’s spending policies, also, Obama has done that in only 3 short years, if (God help us all) he gets reelected, im sure he will give W a run for his money
14 years ago at 10:45 pmSuccess-Again you offered no evidence or counterclaims, mere opinion. If by spouting rhetoric you mean relaying facts outlined by numerous financial firms as I have displayed..yes I am spouting rhetoric (maybe you should have a better understanding of theterms you use)..Side note: I cannot add numbers? You have failed to do so yet again, good sir. If you would add the projected costs of the Iraq war and Bush’s tax cuts (which are generally not included in your google-search facts) you would find the numbers are far greater than our current presidents’. If you want to argue politics we all know The Economist is far-right in their beliefs, and generally unusable for factual information. Do everyone a favor and read a book or two, champ.
14 years ago at 2:19 pmAgain sport, you’re just spouting what is turning out to be liberal rhetoric (and yeah sweetheart, I do know what that means, see, I graduated college, and law school for that matter) and simply asserting that you’re correct. Your numbers are flat out wrong. There is no evidence that Bush created $7 trillion while serving. I see you’re “adding in” the expectant costs of the war in Iraq. That’s specious and you know it. I could go back and add in the expectant cost of FDR’s programs as well or the cost of other Obama programs (e.g. Obamacare) but that’s not the point. The simple truth is that while unequivocally the federal debt did increase by approximately $5 trillion on President George W. Bush’s watch, it did not increase at remotely the same rate it is increasing under President Obama. In fact, borrowing under President Obama is occurring at over 2.5x President Bush’s rate. During his eight fiscal years, Bush ran up a total of $3.283 trillion in deficit spending. In his first two fiscal years, Obama will run up a total of $2.826 trillion in deficit spending ($1.294 trillion in 2010, an estimated $1.267 trillion in 2011, and the $265 billion in “stimulus” money that was spent in 2009). Thus, Bush ran up an average of $410 billion in deficit spending per year, while Obama is running up an average of $1.413 trillion in deficit spending per year — or $1.003 trillion a year more than Bush.
Obama, of course, has said the economy made him do it. But the average inflation-adjusted deficits through Obama’s first two fiscal years will be more than ten times higher than the average inflation-adjusted deficit during the Great Depression. Even as a percentage of the gross domestic product, the average deficits in Obama’s first two fiscal years will more than three times higher the average deficit during the Great Depression. The fact that Obama’s deficits have, by any standard, more than tripled those of the Great Depression, cannot convincingly be blamed on the current recession.
And none of this even takes into account Obamacare, which the Congressional Budget Office says would increase spending by more than $2 trillion in its real first decade (2014 to 2023) — and which, even under your liberal rosy projections, the CBO says would increase the national debt by $341 billion by the end of 2019. And those numbers come from the Standard and The Daily Congressional Record sport…not the Republican party.
I appreciate your liberal eco 101 viewpoint but it’s wrong, no matter how superior you think you are. And maybe it’s you that might want to do some reading, outside the liberal press that is. Hope you do your school homework more thoroughly than you do here.
I apologize to the readers for having to go through all this but I’m tired of this holier-than-thou douche spouting off this liberal bullshit. I’m done, as you were.
14 years ago at 3:25 pmChamp, if you wish to make the claim I am speaking liberal rhetoric you are sadly mistaken (And the obvious argument could be made that all you are speaking is conservative rhetoric..). My values are in the republican party; however, I choose my candidates on a case-by-case basis on how they will perform-from a BUSINESS perspective. Again, you are making the same claims many far right individuals make, ill-informed opinions that they hear from either a talk show or dad around the dinner table. If you wish to relate our current economy to past terms (as you stated) here is a fun fact: When Bush took office, according to the CBO (which you enjoy using) our Economy was projected to have a surplues of over $800 billion. You can do the math (I hope)..On another note, I agree Obama’s performance is not up to par; however, if you read my other posts, it is not nearly as bad (so far) as Bush’s. You keep mentioning the debt he is bringing, however, most of this can be attributed to Bush policies in which Obama continued. If Obama did not pass the stimulus, 2 million jobs would not have been created, and much more spending would not have taken place by consumers. (Again, simple business, you have to invest money to reap the benefits later.. as observed in the great depression and time and time again over the years), So the deficit would have been much larger (again, Obama did not have a choice, as he inherited a distressed nation). If you would do some research champ, you would learn the the war and tax breaks under Bush were not included in his spending analysis (as he used emergency funding for said practices),so you you are correct, his spending did not leave a 7 trillion dollar deficit, it was much larger. You state that there is no evidence to this? Bud, the war has been taking place for years..it is not “projected” to take place!Obamacare cannot be factored into this argument given for the simple reason it has not taken place yet, and for every source you give of it causing more debt..there are equal sources to give that state it will save money. Either way our current healthcare system need reform and this is a start (as Medicare, Medicaid, SS, will be long gone in the future). Otherwise our spending would be astronomical to cover these programs.. Also, the spending cannot be accurately compared to the financial surroundings of the great depression do to the simple fact that our economies were FAR different at the time in regards to products and spending..I’m not going to elaborate, for someone who has gone through”law school” you should know this..Now for Obama’s shortcomings, the stimulus failed. This is the only realy major spending that can be attributed to his name. The rest were remenants of the Bush era. Obama should have done more to cut spending from day one, as he had stated he would do (given that Bush rose military spending to nearly the same spending as WWII for an irrelevant war (save this for another argument). Obama failed to reduce this spending, and to reimplement the taxes (2 trillion) that we lost.. You state that you appreciate my “eco 101” point of view, thanks, I appreciate it, now go take a class in economics. I never said I was far left or support Obama as you whole-heartedly assert. I merely look at this from a business perspective and from a neutral perspective. I understand BOTH sides and see the weaknesses within. Bush would only make our economy worse (given this initial post was about how we need him back). Before being quick to make false assumptions, you should understand both the argument and the background before speaking. From your tone I gather that you are from a small southern town who basis their political beliefs on what others around you say. I suggest you do some research and learn to formulate your own “eco 101” viewpoint champ. That is all, I am done..I have raging to do and quite honestly, I would rather go argue with my sperry than continue this. Good day.
14 years ago at 8:57 pmYou make some valid point, and some I just believe are dead wrong. I do not believe that Obama is doing much of anything, espcially after all of his empty campaign promises, to help the debt situation. Nor do I believe you can simply say Obama is just carrying on Bush’s policies. That’s just silly. As to your personal attacks, I graduated summa with a degree in eco, graduated from law school coif from SMU and live in a liberal stronghold – Portland, Oregon. So you’re dead wrong. As I said before, I’m done with this, we disagree on some central points even though I do agree with you in a lot of ways. I just don’t let personal attacks go unnoticed. Rage on and take it easy on the personal attacks and the “I’m always right” attitude.
14 years ago at 2:09 pmnot blindly supporting the republican candidate. NF
14 years ago at 1:25 pmWho gives a fuck about debt? Oh yeah..poor GDIs..
14 years ago at 4:31 pm^ This fuckin guy
14 years ago at 5:02 pmexactly.
14 years ago at 6:19 pmWho Cares 2012
Well, do you want America to be a GDI country? Because it’s getting poorer and poorer each day with this clown-ass in office now.
14 years ago at 11:51 pmDebt crisis? More like prime stock real estate.
14 years ago at 10:26 amThumb bimples= FaF
14 years ago at 9:07 pm*dimples
14 years ago at 9:08 pmhaha duly noted
14 years ago at 11:55 pmI love Dubya, and I love Ray- Bans, but I prefer aviators over the wayfarers anyday.
14 years ago at 10:20 pm^this. Well said sir
14 years ago at 12:17 amdubya throwin a dole FaF
14 years ago at 10:37 pmFuck you iParty.
14 years ago at 10:53 pmGet some!
14 years ago at 2:10 am