Guy Who Claimed Fraternity Beat Him Up For Being Gay Found To Have Instigated Fight
Last August, Haakon Gisvold went to a Lamba Chi Alpha party at the University of North Dakota. Gisvold was kicked out of the party. That’s when the trouble started. See, Gisvold is gay and claimed that he was kicked out for being gay. He also claimed that the beating he took was because he was gay.
He reported to police that he was stripped of his clothes, physically assaulted, and was called a bunch of homophobic slurs. He also told police that he did not instigate the fight, but that the fraternity did.
Well, investigators have discovered that Gisvold was the one who started the fight and threw the first punch.
From the Grand Forks Herald:
Witnesses told police Gisvold and another person, whose name was redacted from the report, got into a verbal argument over why Gisvold had just been kicked out of the fraternity, according to the police summary. The argument led to “shoving,” and witnesses alleged Gisvold ultimately grabbed the unidentified person by the hair and punched him in the head, according to the police summary.
Witnesses also confirmed that the fraternity members did not strip him of his clothes, but that he took them off himself in a fit of rage. Lambda Chi members said that they suffered a bad reputation after Gisvold filed this false police report, saying they were scared to wear their letters around campus. They were also placed on limited operations — a temporary cease and desist of all fraternity activities — by the school.
Just last week, there was a similar situation at Penn State, where a guy accused a fraternity member of beating him senseless for being gay, only to find that the suspect wasn’t a fraternity member at all..
[via Grand Forks Herald]
Image via UND Lambda Chi Alpha
Getting naked to fight. TWhatTheFuckM.
10 years ago at 10:44 amGreat strategy. No one wants to fight a naked guy.
10 years ago at 12:00 pm“I’ll jerk you off. I’ll jerk you off with both hands.”
10 years ago at 12:21 pmI’m willing to bet this guy thinks everyone hates him because he’s gay. Newsflash guy – it’s not because you’re gay, it’s because you’re an asshole.
10 years ago at 10:57 amBeing gay doesn’t help
10 years ago at 11:00 amBut it doesn’t hurt, either. It’s 2015, you dick.
10 years ago at 11:02 amBeing gay is the same as it was 100, 500, 1000 years ago. Is still an unnatural perversion
10 years ago at 11:13 amI agree fratasaurus. Fuck liberals who try to make it seem normal and acceptable
10 years ago at 11:18 ameverything is a social construct thought up by changing and new philosophies, you can’t say what was and won’t be, because you won’t know if you or anything will ever be.
10 years ago at 11:23 amHow’s philosophy 101?
10 years ago at 12:31 pmfucking awesome, I know everything there is to know now.
10 years ago at 12:38 pmNatural sciences such as biology are absolute. They had it right 60 years ago when the world had it classified as a disease (you know, back when scientific fact wasn’t discarded or ignored just because some delusional liberals didn’t believe in it). Doesn’t mean we shouldn’t accept them, because we accept most people with mental and physical deformities.
10 years ago at 12:41 pmit is not absolute, only 15% of our oceans have been explored and our universe always defy the most brilliant mind’s logic. so tell all is at this current point in time is absolute.
10 years ago at 1:10 pmIf you find gay mermaid civilization on the ocean floor let me know (Kanye west doesn’t count). Other than that you’re setting up a straw man because while scientific knowledge does advance and change (for example, one day one might find a gay gene) it would only change the means by which homosexuality is explained.. In such a case (with a gene) it could then be reclassified as a genetic condition but a disease none the less because it greatly diminishes the capability to survive, propagate and pass on genes.
10 years ago at 1:46 pmdidn’t they find a gay gene that could be turned off and on I fruit Flys? of which also share 65% of our DNA?
10 years ago at 1:50 pmalso there are A-sexual organisims. some species of fish when placed in a pool of all males would change their roles to female. you think humans are devoid of such evolutionary forces?
10 years ago at 1:52 pmAs I said, we don’t know what causes it (I personally think it’s too much estrogen and other hormones supplied to a male fetus in the womb) but what’s your point? There’s also some species that regrow body parts after they break off and there are species that eat their siblings. I think I heard about the fruit fly research but that does not mean the gene is in humans (though fruit flies make great test subjects and some gene sequences do have implications for humans). We also share 50% of our DNA with bananas but you don’t see me growing on a tropical tree waiting to be picked and peeled.
10 years ago at 3:02 pmAnd also I have not seen any humans naturally changing sex (Bruce Jenner tried to). There’s delayed onset/growth of genitals and hermaphrodism (spelling?), the latter of which is considered a disease.
10 years ago at 3:05 pmso the concept of mutation and the age old debate of nature vs nurture is moot to you? like I said before there are a lot of things that still boggle our minds. taking such a firm and assertive stance is a folly.
10 years ago at 3:13 pmmy point is you said it’s an unnatural perversion, when nature defys what we think is right and wrong all the time. humans are the most complex so naturally it takes time and great understanding to figure us out. but we are also part of nature, thus also defy what we think is right and wrong.
10 years ago at 3:20 pmSo you think that there are humans out there who can change gender? If you don’t, then you don’t really have a point.
10 years ago at 8:53 pmYeah because gender is ascribed while sex is prescribed. again you think it’s unnatural when it happens all the time in nature and we are nature and biology is an desolate as you said. so it is natural.
10 years ago at 7:21 amabsolute*
10 years ago at 7:22 amThese days they’re saying sexual preferences are likely to be a result of both genetics and early environmental conditions. However, it’s being maintained that your sexual preference is more or less set in stone a few years after birth. Either way, who gives a fuck? If you’re honestly threatened by gay people then you’re a pussy
10 years ago at 3:23 pmSo is getting drunk who cares if some dudes like d
10 years ago at 11:38 amuntil I can be drunk in public I don’t wanna see people being gay in public
10 years ago at 11:42 amValid point and my take on this is that you’re not legally allowed to be drunk in public, but chances are if you’re not causing any disturbance no one will notice/care. If two guys are walking down the street together you probably wouldn’t notice they’re gay unless they’re displaying it. Idk about you but I see two guys holding hands I don’t really give a fuck. Boning is another thing but I’m pretty sure that’s illegal and I hate all people who make out in public.
10 years ago at 12:27 pmSam suffered from the Tebow effect. Was he good enough to make a 53 man roster on some teams? The answer isn’t clear. But Sam brought a media circus with him and he wasn’t good enough to justify turning the locker room into a madhouse.
10 years ago at 4:33 pmI mean it’s against Christianity
10 years ago at 11:40 amyou can be open about fucking other men but you better not say anything about your religion. Great time to be alive
10 years ago at 1:10 pmThis comment shouldn’t be getting laps because it’s a fact – being openly gay really is against Christian teaching. It has been considered a sin since the Apostles started preaching. It’s all there in the New Testament. Now, that doesn’t mean that a person is bad because they’re gay, but it does mean that they are falling short of what God always intended for them to be. We all struggle spiritually with something and for some people it happens to be attraction to the same sex.
10 years ago at 1:25 pmWhat verses in the New Testament say this specifically
10 years ago at 1:34 pmRomans 1:26-27 for example. The thing about religion/religious texts is you can’t hold someone to them unless they buy into the religion. Otherwise it’s ink on paper. Similarly the Eucharist is only bread and wine to people who don’t aren’t Catholic, but to Catholics transsubstantiation takes places and the bread is no longer bread and the wine is no longer wine.
24 Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves,
10 years ago at 2:04 pm25 because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen.
26 For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature;
27 and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error. http://esv.to/Rom1.24-27
As a Catholic, I want to point out that this is absolutely correct. Christians are to live out our faith as best we can and tell the truth about what we believe, but we should never force anyone to live by Christian standards.
10 years ago at 2:11 pmThere are so many things the bible considers sinful that most people do everyday. I don’t find this to be a reasonable argument.
10 years ago at 2:12 pmIt’s true that Christians can’t say that something is sinful just “because the Bible says so.” (We don’t see all Old Testament laws as being in effect, for example.) That’s why there is a proper way to interpret it. As a Catholic, I believe that scripture is meant to be read through the life of the Church and in light of the Gospel message itself. So we ask, “What does this passage of scripture mean in light of God becoming human, ministering to the poor and sick, dying and then conquering death through the Resurrection?” “What did the Church Fathers say about the scripture?” Ultimately, Christians are supposed to see sin as not “breaking a rule” – it’s falling short of living like Christ (we follow our ego instead of engaging in cosuffering love, as God meant us to live). We are not to judge others and we are certainly not meant to coerce others into living a Christian life if they don’t want to. We are supposed to live according to the Bible in light of Church teaching and pray for and love everyone, whether they are Christians or not.
10 years ago at 3:30 pmI was just curious on the verses. Im not disagreeing with you in any way.
10 years ago at 3:55 pmSt. Paul writes about it directly in Romans 1:26-28 and I Corinthians 6:9-11. St. Jude in Jude 1:5-8. So if one is to consider themselves a Christian, living in open homosexuality is not an option. Homosexuality is clearly sinful, but there are also heterosexual acts that are sinful. The idea is that God wants us to live full, happy lives, and so Christians ought to say “no” to certain things in life in order to say “yes” to a life lived in Christ. We all have our struggles, so Christians should never judge another person, but that also doesn’t mean that we should stay quiet about the content of our faith.
10 years ago at 2:08 pmNobody ever said that gays automatically identified as Christian, but the truly Christian thing to do is be accepting of people, even if you disagree with them. Live and let live.
10 years ago at 4:40 pmThere’s a difference between personal acceptance and political tolerance that Christians need to make. So it would be wrong to use the government to force people to live by Christian standards – that’s political tolerance. But personally, Christians must view homosexual behavior as being sinful. To believe otherwise is to contradict clear biblical teaching. That doesn’t mean that we judge gay people as being bad or destined for hell, but there is still the reality that gay people are living a lifestyle that falls short of what God intended for human beings. Christians are meant to love and pray for everyone, but that doesn’t mean that we have to view sinful behavior as being normal or acceptable.
10 years ago at 7:15 pmThis entire conversation has gone on way too long. This is a satirical website, not debate.com. Go continue this somewhere else
10 years ago at 8:38 pmNot by any means. Normal or not though, we ourselves would be falling short of God’s intentions by not treating them as equal people. All the gay people I’ve met have been better people and lived more along Christian teachings than most straight people I know. Besides, I highly doubt God, in all he has under his scope of management, would hold something like that completely against a person in the grand scheme, especially if, say, that were the only thing a person might consider a flaw.
10 years ago at 11:26 pmif a gay dude slaps you on the cheek with his dick, the Christian thing to do is to turn the other cheek. problem solved.
10 years ago at 8:53 pmWho the fuck cares about how it corresponds with Christianity
10 years ago at 3:45 pmThe old adage of “love the sinner, hate the sin” applied well to the situation.
However, the majority of people nowadays can’t handle being told if they are doing something wrong.
10 years ago at 4:37 amI think Christianity is against the butt stuff movement to. You want us to stop that also #buttstuff2015
10 years ago at 2:38 amAnd Michael Sam washed out of football because he’s into dick. It’s an excuse that they’re willing to make.
10 years ago at 11:06 amThis would be a great topic for the forums
10 years ago at 7:45 pmAs long as there’s assholes like these two in the world fraternities will have a bad rep for doing nothing wrong.
10 years ago at 10:58 am#fratlivesmatter
10 years ago at 10:58 amRest assured everyone, the fraternity still is on suspension and the gay kid was given a Medal of Honor for getting a fraternity in trouble. SMH
10 years ago at 11:00 amProbably will get invited to the White House
10 years ago at 11:14 amHere’s hoping he got his ass handed to him in the fight
10 years ago at 1:20 amWhy the Fuck have no laws been implemented to punish those that lie like this, make shit up, and tarnish good names, etc. it’s getting fucking outrageous
10 years ago at 11:11 amThey could file a civil suit for defamation. There is indeed a law implemented. It’s only monetary at the moment, but it’s something.
10 years ago at 11:38 amActually, they could file charges for assault, harassment, and public indecency. But as Bush Light said, civil suit for defamation is the usual course of action.
10 years ago at 11:56 amSounds like a guy who was stirring up shit in and out of his bedroom
10 years ago at 11:36 amHey I like to stir up shit in the bedroom too. My preference if females but to each his own.
10 years ago at 1:02 pmThis is what I don’t get about the whole LGBTQRSTUV movement. They say they want acceptance and tolerance, yet they don’t accept or tolerate their opposers. “It shouldn’t be a big deal if you’re gay.” Ok, on that note, don’t make a “#NationalComingOutDay” dedicated to drawing attention to you attention seeking buffoons. It’s really common sense, but keep making your opposers look like the bad guys, it’s only going to get worse for you.
10 years ago at 11:40 amDamn good arguement.
10 years ago at 11:14 amI believe every American is entitled to do whatever they damn well please as long as they arent harming anyone else. Want to own a few guns responsibly ? Fuck yea. Want to be with another man? Sure, go for it. But using your sexual orientation as an excuse as to why you got your ass beat for being a drunken douche is ridiculous.
10 years ago at 11:56 amCannot deal with people using excuses because of their race or sexuality for something entirely different . News flash most people do not care. Fuck political correctness.
10 years ago at 11:56 amBest comment of the night!!
10 years ago at 9:17 pm