Not really. It got good at the free market part, but global warming is not a myth. It’s categorically irresponsible to ignore it- it may be exaggerated, but how stupid can you be not to at least take it into account? Plus, everyone with a brain between their ears knows that Green is the future because we don’t have unlimited oil. SMART right, not blind right.
The Earth has been going through periods of extreme heating and extreme cooling for billions of years, that is just the way our planet works. So yes the planet could be heating up, but to suggest we are the cause of it is far fetched. One volcano such as Yellowstone puts more pollutants into the air then the entirety of human kind.
Climate change is accelerated by the fact that we destroyed the ozone layer (and we keep doing so). And the reason China isnt putting out regulations is that anytime one of their residents complains about living in clouds of pollution they get killed. Is that really what democracy and MERICA is about?
Scotch_Neat is dead on. I’m no liberal (far from it), but the people who doubt the validity of climate change and evolution, and not like jokingly deny them but actually believe they don’t exist, are the reason why the GOP won’t win in 2012.
The South Park creators once said that 25% of Americans are retarded. They sure give us a lot of credit, because they lowballed the shit out of the actual number.
You may not think you’re a liberal but you talk like a liberal and drive a goddamn Prius, you are probably a liberal. Climate change and alternative energy are simply a way for people to get rich selling things that nobody wants. People who started this global warming climate change bullshit created a problem we didn’t have and exploited Americans stupidity to earn billions of dollars. I cant hate a man for making money but I’m gonna go burn some tires please buy some carbon credits for me.
^JParks nailed it. The GOP is going down the tubes by pandering to an increasingly far-right base. We’ll be dead in a couple election cycles if this trend continues.
Vicodin_Sunday, take your anti-intellectualist bullshit and leave it out of 2012. I may not agree with the liberals’ agendas regarding the environment, but how do you expect the GOP to be taken seriously without accepting climate change? The evidence is empiricial. The cycles are changing at an unnatural rate and the fact of the matter is that it has been clearly established that more co2= more heat generated.
My problem with the Republican Party is that when it comes to science, they are always 20 years behind. Even now many conservatives deny evolution, and it is frustrating to see the party that I believe has the right answers suddenly get so retarded the second someone says “science.” The anti-climate change crowd is looking more and more like the anti-evolution crowd: an outdated part of the GOP that will only whither away as the older voters die (grim, but true.)
Putting all the political talk aside, there is no question that the massive amounts of pollution we produce every day is depleting the ozone layer and allowing more heat to reach the earth’s surface. That’s something which cannot be refuted. However, to call it “global warming” and claim that our pollution will lead to massive climate changes is far-fetched. As others have already said, the earth goes through cycles of heating and cooling (ever watched the movie Ice Age? yeah, that shit’s real) so its impossible to say how much or how little effect our pollution is having on our climate and how much is part of the natural cycle. Correlation ≠cause and effect.
My main point is this. People who staunchly and rigidly deny things categorically aren’t to be trusted or listened to at all. Vicodin_Sunday is obviously not a coherent or critical thinker. The GOP is in trouble because liberals can cast us in a happily uneducated light. My point is this, though. There’s a finite amount of oil in the world. For the US to maintain its spot as World Class Skullfucker, we need to keep ahead of the tech curve. So far, we’re lagging behind. The future is in green energy because oil is finite- think about it. Our entire military industrial complex is dependent on a finite resource, so wouldn’t it be smart to put a huge chunk of cash into freeing ourselves of a dependence like that?
And while I’m pissed- fuck social issues. Our country is facing some truly severe problems that need attending to (I’m assuming I don’t have to list them here.) Stupid fucking rednecks and their anti abortion christ our lord obsession need to shut the fuck up. If middle of the road voters could see the conservative PLAN for the country and not the moralist mission, they would vote for the red.
Please go re watch the video the fact is the left has taken oil (a readily available cheep resource), and made us feel bad for using it. All the while the people who go around spouting claims of climate change and global warming are some of the biggest polluters. An energy audit concluded that Al Gore’s Tennessee Mansion uses more energy and is more of a “harm” to the environment than the W’s Crawford Ranch. People on this site want to talk about how the climate is changing and we are destroying the ozone, but they still drive vehicles that get 14mpg. To me it seems like people are talking the talk and not walking the walk. When I see that yes I will mock them. The fact is there is more recoverable oil in the United States than there is in the Mid East, but were not allowed to drill for and refine it. The fact is our factories cant compete with China because of all the regulations business owners face here in America. We are legislation ourselves out of a republic. Eventually when the left gets there way we will be so dependent on the government we wont know what to do without them. We will be forced to continue to surrender our rights to those who “know better.” You talk about how people like me are hurting the GOP, but all I see the GOP doing is nominating week ass conservatives. In 2008 they nominated a week ass conservative and lost. In 2012 it looks like they are nominating a week as conservative again. Guess what probably gonna lose again.
Vicodin: Please educate yourself. PLEASE for the love of all that is conservative. You are a plague- a disease. “Cheep?” Are you serious? How can you expect anyone to lend you any credence whatsoever when you spell at below a third grade level?
^ To anyone that believes in global warming still, watch an inconsistent truth. Pretty good documentary made; the people know what they are talking about on it, and it makes Al Gore look like more of a dumbass than he already is.
With regards to global warming and/or climate change. It is indeed a real thing, however the job we’re doing right now to keep things clean isn’t half bad. Catalytic converters, clean coal, natural gas, and soon to come nuclear fission (currently being researched but when released it will make oil a thing of the past) have helped us to make great strides in keeping America comfortably habitable. The countries mentioned in this video are having much more trouble then we are. For example, In China there are oxygen stations where citizens can get healthy air in highly polluted cities like Beijing and Shanghai. Countries in Central Europe are also suffering. For example, the snow in Austria has grown black due to the large amount of pollution In the air and it has had detrimental effects to the people’s mental health causing a huge spike in suicides. The world may not end tomorrow, but vigilance is important in all facets of life. The free market understands these risks. Bad air causes an increase in sick employees which leads to a lack of productivity. It is pivotal that we do whatever is necessary to make sure that the people, not corporations, that promulgate the excellence this nation requires are able to succeed.
@ 1:25, the video shows the Statue of Liberty as the narrator says “…..the free market is the only force in human history to uplift the poor, establish the middle class, and create lasting prosperity.” – I came right then.
OK, but that’s not really true. I agree that the free market kicks ass and is best for a society over all but the New Deal was instrumental in creating America’s middle class.
Eh, be careful stating that the New Deal was “instrumental” in creating America’s middle class. Without WWII, the New Deal would have certainly failed because we all know what happens when the government just hands out free benefits and money…laziness in the workplace if you couldn’t guess.
FDR prolonged the depression and made it much worse than it would have been had the government merely pursued some modest monetary expansion policies instead of a massive socialist taxation and price fixing system a-la the New Deal. Stop getting all your information from Komrade Krugman at the NYT and start reading some economists that actually know what the hell they’re talking about, like Richard Posner, Ed Prescott, Robert Lucas, or the late Dr. Friedman.
^ The guy who still thinks this is the 19th century, treats women with no respect, and is a blind conservative is telling me to learn about how things really are? Do you really think they wouldn’t take the “simple” route if they could? You honestly believe monetary policies weren’t considered? Something drastic had to be done and that’s exactly what happened. It got our country on the right track and got us through to the WWII. It’s not as simple as basic economics makes it out to be when you have unemployment rates that high. So tell me, with the bubble of the 90s, why did your simple monetary adjustments not help with this latest recession? When things get out of hand, you gotta stray away from the textbooks.
When the country is broke the answer is not to spend money. It will not work. The only thing that got our country out of the depression was WWII. American factories started producing things for the military at an amazing rate. Today that wont work because we buy everything from China. In order to get out of this recession we do not need to simply “tweak monetary policy.” We need to stop spending more money than we earn. Cut spending across the board, eliminate several governmental agencies, and let people fucking live their lives.
Tears of joy and a stiffy.
13 years ago at 8:50 pm^
13 years ago at 9:25 pmYea you called?
13 years ago at 12:03 amBest thing i have ever seen
13 years ago at 1:33 amPropaganda bullshit!
13 years ago at 12:37 pmKansas F@ggot I though you left.
13 years ago at 12:39 pmLong politically fueled comment.
13 years ago at 8:16 amFinally someone gets it!
13 years ago at 8:59 pmNot really. It got good at the free market part, but global warming is not a myth. It’s categorically irresponsible to ignore it- it may be exaggerated, but how stupid can you be not to at least take it into account? Plus, everyone with a brain between their ears knows that Green is the future because we don’t have unlimited oil. SMART right, not blind right.
13 years ago at 10:34 pmI don’t know, when the founder of The Weather Channel comes out and says Global Warming is a scam I guess I wouldn’t believe him either.
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2007/11/07/weather-channel-founder-global-warming-greatest-scam-history
13 years ago at 10:46 pmClimate change, not global warming. Nobody who is worth anything calls it that anymore.
13 years ago at 7:55 amThe Earth has been going through periods of extreme heating and extreme cooling for billions of years, that is just the way our planet works. So yes the planet could be heating up, but to suggest we are the cause of it is far fetched. One volcano such as Yellowstone puts more pollutants into the air then the entirety of human kind.
13 years ago at 8:57 amThe earth does go through cooling and warming periods but humans are speeding up the warming process, thats science…
13 years ago at 9:28 amYeah Guys its science, Im super serial
13 years ago at 10:42 amClimate change is accelerated by the fact that we destroyed the ozone layer (and we keep doing so). And the reason China isnt putting out regulations is that anytime one of their residents complains about living in clouds of pollution they get killed. Is that really what democracy and MERICA is about?
13 years ago at 10:56 am^This guy gets it.
13 years ago at 11:57 amScotch_Neat is dead on. I’m no liberal (far from it), but the people who doubt the validity of climate change and evolution, and not like jokingly deny them but actually believe they don’t exist, are the reason why the GOP won’t win in 2012.
The South Park creators once said that 25% of Americans are retarded. They sure give us a lot of credit, because they lowballed the shit out of the actual number.
13 years ago at 12:01 pmYou may not think you’re a liberal but you talk like a liberal and drive a goddamn Prius, you are probably a liberal. Climate change and alternative energy are simply a way for people to get rich selling things that nobody wants. People who started this global warming climate change bullshit created a problem we didn’t have and exploited Americans stupidity to earn billions of dollars. I cant hate a man for making money but I’m gonna go burn some tires please buy some carbon credits for me.
13 years ago at 12:28 pm^JParks nailed it. The GOP is going down the tubes by pandering to an increasingly far-right base. We’ll be dead in a couple election cycles if this trend continues.
13 years ago at 1:20 pmVicodin_Sunday, take your anti-intellectualist bullshit and leave it out of 2012. I may not agree with the liberals’ agendas regarding the environment, but how do you expect the GOP to be taken seriously without accepting climate change? The evidence is empiricial. The cycles are changing at an unnatural rate and the fact of the matter is that it has been clearly established that more co2= more heat generated.
My problem with the Republican Party is that when it comes to science, they are always 20 years behind. Even now many conservatives deny evolution, and it is frustrating to see the party that I believe has the right answers suddenly get so retarded the second someone says “science.” The anti-climate change crowd is looking more and more like the anti-evolution crowd: an outdated part of the GOP that will only whither away as the older voters die (grim, but true.)
13 years ago at 2:11 pmPutting all the political talk aside, there is no question that the massive amounts of pollution we produce every day is depleting the ozone layer and allowing more heat to reach the earth’s surface. That’s something which cannot be refuted. However, to call it “global warming” and claim that our pollution will lead to massive climate changes is far-fetched. As others have already said, the earth goes through cycles of heating and cooling (ever watched the movie Ice Age? yeah, that shit’s real) so its impossible to say how much or how little effect our pollution is having on our climate and how much is part of the natural cycle. Correlation ≠cause and effect.
13 years ago at 2:28 pmMy main point is this. People who staunchly and rigidly deny things categorically aren’t to be trusted or listened to at all. Vicodin_Sunday is obviously not a coherent or critical thinker. The GOP is in trouble because liberals can cast us in a happily uneducated light. My point is this, though. There’s a finite amount of oil in the world. For the US to maintain its spot as World Class Skullfucker, we need to keep ahead of the tech curve. So far, we’re lagging behind. The future is in green energy because oil is finite- think about it. Our entire military industrial complex is dependent on a finite resource, so wouldn’t it be smart to put a huge chunk of cash into freeing ourselves of a dependence like that?
13 years ago at 2:53 pmAnd while I’m pissed- fuck social issues. Our country is facing some truly severe problems that need attending to (I’m assuming I don’t have to list them here.) Stupid fucking rednecks and their anti abortion christ our lord obsession need to shut the fuck up. If middle of the road voters could see the conservative PLAN for the country and not the moralist mission, they would vote for the red.
13 years ago at 2:55 pmPlease go re watch the video the fact is the left has taken oil (a readily available cheep resource), and made us feel bad for using it. All the while the people who go around spouting claims of climate change and global warming are some of the biggest polluters. An energy audit concluded that Al Gore’s Tennessee Mansion uses more energy and is more of a “harm” to the environment than the W’s Crawford Ranch. People on this site want to talk about how the climate is changing and we are destroying the ozone, but they still drive vehicles that get 14mpg. To me it seems like people are talking the talk and not walking the walk. When I see that yes I will mock them. The fact is there is more recoverable oil in the United States than there is in the Mid East, but were not allowed to drill for and refine it. The fact is our factories cant compete with China because of all the regulations business owners face here in America. We are legislation ourselves out of a republic. Eventually when the left gets there way we will be so dependent on the government we wont know what to do without them. We will be forced to continue to surrender our rights to those who “know better.” You talk about how people like me are hurting the GOP, but all I see the GOP doing is nominating week ass conservatives. In 2008 they nominated a week ass conservative and lost. In 2012 it looks like they are nominating a week as conservative again. Guess what probably gonna lose again.
13 years ago at 3:31 pmVicodin: Please educate yourself. PLEASE for the love of all that is conservative. You are a plague- a disease. “Cheep?” Are you serious? How can you expect anyone to lend you any credence whatsoever when you spell at below a third grade level?
13 years ago at 4:00 pmAgreed Caldwell.
13 years ago at 4:08 pm^ To anyone that believes in global warming still, watch an inconsistent truth. Pretty good documentary made; the people know what they are talking about on it, and it makes Al Gore look like more of a dumbass than he already is.
13 years ago at 6:18 pm^
13 years ago at 9:46 pmThank you, someone gets it
With regards to global warming and/or climate change. It is indeed a real thing, however the job we’re doing right now to keep things clean isn’t half bad. Catalytic converters, clean coal, natural gas, and soon to come nuclear fission (currently being researched but when released it will make oil a thing of the past) have helped us to make great strides in keeping America comfortably habitable. The countries mentioned in this video are having much more trouble then we are. For example, In China there are oxygen stations where citizens can get healthy air in highly polluted cities like Beijing and Shanghai. Countries in Central Europe are also suffering. For example, the snow in Austria has grown black due to the large amount of pollution In the air and it has had detrimental effects to the people’s mental health causing a huge spike in suicides. The world may not end tomorrow, but vigilance is important in all facets of life. The free market understands these risks. Bad air causes an increase in sick employees which leads to a lack of productivity. It is pivotal that we do whatever is necessary to make sure that the people, not corporations, that promulgate the excellence this nation requires are able to succeed.
12 years ago at 4:24 amQuality.
13 years ago at 9:03 pmshit gave me goose bumps and a raging hard on
13 years ago at 9:04 pmThe ole raging patriot.
13 years ago at 11:26 pmRon Paul 2012
13 years ago at 9:04 pmthis guy gets it.
13 years ago at 9:19 pmAnyone but Obama 2012
13 years ago at 9:26 pmseconded
13 years ago at 9:38 pmBacon 2012
13 years ago at 10:56 pmMotion carried
13 years ago at 11:01 pmKony 2012?
13 years ago at 11:14 pmDick Perry Dictatorship 2012.
13 years ago at 10:08 pmKony / Sandusky 2012
13 years ago at 12:32 am@ 1:25, the video shows the Statue of Liberty as the narrator says “…..the free market is the only force in human history to uplift the poor, establish the middle class, and create lasting prosperity.” – I came right then.
13 years ago at 9:05 pm^this
13 years ago at 10:08 pm^^cummed*
13 years ago at 11:29 pmOK, but that’s not really true. I agree that the free market kicks ass and is best for a society over all but the New Deal was instrumental in creating America’s middle class.
13 years ago at 12:56 amSure screws us 80 years later though
10 years ago at 11:55 pmEh, be careful stating that the New Deal was “instrumental” in creating America’s middle class. Without WWII, the New Deal would have certainly failed because we all know what happens when the government just hands out free benefits and money…laziness in the workplace if you couldn’t guess.
13 years ago at 4:45 am^ So tell us, what should FDR have done in that current situation?
13 years ago at 8:52 amFDR prolonged the depression and made it much worse than it would have been had the government merely pursued some modest monetary expansion policies instead of a massive socialist taxation and price fixing system a-la the New Deal. Stop getting all your information from Komrade Krugman at the NYT and start reading some economists that actually know what the hell they’re talking about, like Richard Posner, Ed Prescott, Robert Lucas, or the late Dr. Friedman.
13 years ago at 11:16 am^ The guy who still thinks this is the 19th century, treats women with no respect, and is a blind conservative is telling me to learn about how things really are? Do you really think they wouldn’t take the “simple” route if they could? You honestly believe monetary policies weren’t considered? Something drastic had to be done and that’s exactly what happened. It got our country on the right track and got us through to the WWII. It’s not as simple as basic economics makes it out to be when you have unemployment rates that high. So tell me, with the bubble of the 90s, why did your simple monetary adjustments not help with this latest recession? When things get out of hand, you gotta stray away from the textbooks.
13 years ago at 12:05 pmWhen the country is broke the answer is not to spend money. It will not work. The only thing that got our country out of the depression was WWII. American factories started producing things for the military at an amazing rate. Today that wont work because we buy everything from China. In order to get out of this recession we do not need to simply “tweak monetary policy.” We need to stop spending more money than we earn. Cut spending across the board, eliminate several governmental agencies, and let people fucking live their lives.
13 years ago at 12:33 pmWe’re not in recession chief.
13 years ago at 12:43 pmRed, white, and blue boner.
13 years ago at 9:06 pmhttp://youtu.be/2CdJTfGiRCI
13 years ago at 9:07 pm^^This
13 years ago at 9:20 pm“screw ’em”.
13 years ago at 9:22 pmGod, I would be such a proud father if that was my son.
Manly tears were shed.
13 years ago at 9:07 pmFucking Yes!
13 years ago at 9:08 pm