Vietnam was a military victory in every way. We won every single major conflict in Vietnam. The fucking hippies were the ones trying to convince everyone we lost. Even if it weren’t just a “conflict” we’d still have an undefeated record you ignorant fuck. I
^This guy understands. We whopped the fuck out of those rice pickers, even during the Tet Offensive which every dumbass thinks turned the tide even though it was a huge military failure on the part of NVA.
Our original intention was to stop the spread of communism in the REGION. That is the key point when looking at the Vietnam War. The theory at the time was that a country bordering a communist one is more likely to fall into communism, however the region never did fall to communism. Although Vietnam itself may be a Marxist country, Vietnam BY ITSELF is pretty irrelevant.
^Actually Loas and Combodia both fell to communism only a couple years after we left Vietnam. In Cambodia alone the khmer rouge murdered 1/6 of their own population because they were such radical commies. The Domino Theory was somewhat correct, it’s just that Southeast Asia is a shit hole and we didn’t realize that it wouldn’t fucking matter if a couple of those countries turned to the dark side
Additionally, it was essentially impossible for us to stop North Vietnam’s incoming military supplies without igniting World War 3, as it was being directly provided by Russia and China. We would have had to directly engage those two to completely isolate our “main” enemy during the war, which is an essential tactic to win. Furthermore, we in no way expected the large scale guerrilla war that it turned out to be, and unfortunately couldn’t massacre every single village in the country under the suspicion of NVA/Viet Cong quartering.
^This guys gets it. It’s an entirely different matter when you’re fighting a well-armed insurgency with international backers rather than a traditional war. There was literally nothing we could of done to “win” that conflict other than kicking off WW3.
More like the British just deciding that fighting us wasn’t worth it so they just hopped aboard their tory canoes and high-tailed it back to England at the behest of ‘ole Georgie Boy
^Sounds remarkably similar to “the Americans just deciding that fighting the Vietnamese wasn’t worth it so they just hopped aboard their capitalism canoes and high-tailed it back to the USA at the behest of ‘ole Richie Boy”
Loopholes. TFM
12 years ago at 1:17 pmReferring to Vietnam as a “conflict” in order to preserve America’s undefeated record in wars. TFM.
12 years ago at 1:25 pmFirst.
12 years ago at 6:57 pmVietnam was a military victory in every way. We won every single major conflict in Vietnam. The fucking hippies were the ones trying to convince everyone we lost. Even if it weren’t just a “conflict” we’d still have an undefeated record you ignorant fuck. I
12 years ago at 1:27 pm^This guy understands. We whopped the fuck out of those rice pickers, even during the Tet Offensive which every dumbass thinks turned the tide even though it was a huge military failure on the part of NVA.
12 years ago at 1:31 pm^^ educated individuals save us from the masses
12 years ago at 2:14 pmIf its a victory, then why is Vietnam now a wholly Marxist country?
12 years ago at 2:19 pmBecause we withdrew from Vietnam before we finished what we intended to do. Unfinished business does not = defeated.
12 years ago at 4:39 pm^ Yes, it does. We were unable to finish what we intended to do.
12 years ago at 5:46 pm^
12 years ago at 5:49 pmOur original intention was to stop the spread of communism in the REGION. That is the key point when looking at the Vietnam War. The theory at the time was that a country bordering a communist one is more likely to fall into communism, however the region never did fall to communism. Although Vietnam itself may be a Marxist country, Vietnam BY ITSELF is pretty irrelevant.
12 years ago at 5:55 pm^Actually Loas and Combodia both fell to communism only a couple years after we left Vietnam. In Cambodia alone the khmer rouge murdered 1/6 of their own population because they were such radical commies. The Domino Theory was somewhat correct, it’s just that Southeast Asia is a shit hole and we didn’t realize that it wouldn’t fucking matter if a couple of those countries turned to the dark side
12 years ago at 8:29 pmAdditionally, it was essentially impossible for us to stop North Vietnam’s incoming military supplies without igniting World War 3, as it was being directly provided by Russia and China. We would have had to directly engage those two to completely isolate our “main” enemy during the war, which is an essential tactic to win. Furthermore, we in no way expected the large scale guerrilla war that it turned out to be, and unfortunately couldn’t massacre every single village in the country under the suspicion of NVA/Viet Cong quartering.
12 years ago at 9:52 pm^^^^^ we left because public opinion was very bad. The NVA didn’t beat us with their military.
12 years ago at 1:01 am^This guys gets it. It’s an entirely different matter when you’re fighting a well-armed insurgency with international backers rather than a traditional war. There was literally nothing we could of done to “win” that conflict other than kicking off WW3.
12 years ago at 1:03 amThe War of 1812. NF
12 years ago at 2:26 pmWe’re still a country, right? I’d say we won that
12 years ago at 3:32 pmMore like the British just deciding that fighting us wasn’t worth it so they just hopped aboard their tory canoes and high-tailed it back to England at the behest of ‘ole Georgie Boy
12 years ago at 6:46 pm^Sounds remarkably similar to “the Americans just deciding that fighting the Vietnamese wasn’t worth it so they just hopped aboard their capitalism canoes and high-tailed it back to the USA at the behest of ‘ole Richie Boy”
12 years ago at 7:15 pm^Different toilets, same shit
12 years ago at 7:17 pm^ nicely put
12 years ago at 8:42 pm^ Well put^ ? Installing some proper english would be a good idea for you, sport.
12 years ago at 9:17 pmHey, look here. One time in ‘nam I saw a grizzly bear ridin a scooter.
12 years ago at 2:48 pm“Today… With computers.. You know… If you’re datin some lil ol gal. You can’t even smell her. Girls smell real nice!” – Si
12 years ago at 6:44 pm^^ this is a troll I would like to see on every post.
12 years ago at 2:42 amKilled it. Frat on
12 years ago at 9:14 pmForrest Gump was the hero
12 years ago at 10:59 pm^
12 years ago at 2:48 amKorean War is still not finished. Just putting it out there.
12 years ago at 6:38 pm