Is This The End Of “Locker Room Talk” As We Know It?
Sunday night’s game of liar’s poker presidential debate started off right where it was expected to; the recording of a conversation Donald Trump had 11 years ago with Billy Bush in which he is heard making lewd, sexual remarks that sparked national outrage took center stage.
For starters, I’m not sure why anyone was shocked by these remarks. Trump has made no real attempt to cover up his past behavior. In fact, he seems rather proud of it. From what I’ve seen out of his rolodex of women over the years, I can’t say I blame him. This is the Trump America knew they would be getting from day 1. There should’ve been no surprise that these words were ever uttered by the Don. Say what you will about how un-presidential those comments were and how it was embarrassing as a nation to have this topic as a focal point at the debate. I won’t argue that it wasn’t, but it was damn entertaining TV. The Don did what he had to do — he apologized. You could tell he was actually somewhat embarrassed by the situation.
This has now become a prime example of why guys don’t rat out other guys. Talk amongst dudes is sacred. Chicks tell other chicks about the inner workings of their mind; it’s what they do. There is honor amongst men when it comes to “locker room talk,” as it’s oft called, as well. If women heard even a tenth of the conversations guys truly have when they weren’t around, they’d all be lesbians. There is no greater form of birth control than the revelation of these discussions (unless you’re Melania, of course).
You know who the only people guys lie to more than women are? Other guys. We all want to be the big swinging dick in the room. There’s no better way to stroke your own ego than to give the boys the impression that you have more money, can get more women, or can drive the ball longer off the tee. Is that pretentious? Sure, yet we all deep down, whether we admit it or not, would like the ability to be able to brag about all of those accomplishments. And when we don’t, we lie/exaggerate about it to save face.
For those sitting on their high horse, like those saying, “What kind of locker rooms is Trump hanging out in?,” and professional athletes citing “I’ve never experienced locker room talk like that?” They are either complete hypocrites or have been spending far too much of their time in “safe spaces.” Get out and live, man. You know why you haven’t ever been privy to conversations like that? For one reason or another, you aren’t deemed trustworthy enough. You’re probably the type of guy who runs home and tells his wife everything and puts the rest of the boys in the doghouse with their significant others.
Look, I’m not defending Trump’s comments. Of course they were disrespectful and over the top. But I won’t sit here and say I haven’t been in the presence of conversations like this hundreds of times. The vast majority of the time it’s just dudes being dudes. Tongue in cheek comments that you have to take with a grain of salt, especially if the beers are flowing. Maybe I spend too much time hanging out with those deplorables Hillary referred too.
I understand the difference between an insecure man trying to show off in front of the boys, which I think Trump was, in this case, and an actual sexual predator. If I’m proven wrong, so be it. It’s certainly possible there is evidence out there that will be revealed in the days to come proving Trump has crossed the line before. If that turns out to be the case, then fare thee well, Donald. There is no room for inappropriate sexual misconduct in this world, let alone from the person holding the most powerful position in the world. If only there was someone for Trump to draw a parallel comparison with regarding this incident…
Let’s not forget to give Donald credit where it’s due; it takes a big man to admit when they strike out with a woman. Those might be the rarest words to come out of any man’s mouth. Those are secrets typically taken to the grave. I’d rather die with my buddies believing I took home that blonde bombshell from the bar last night than admit I went home and feel asleep with a slice of pizza on my stomach and Netflix asking “are you still watching Stranger Things?”
For the record, I don’t have an allegiance to Trump or Hillary. I’m having as hard a time as anyone accepting these are the major party candidates. However, Monday night did provide me with the person I’ve been seeking to cast my vote for – Ken Bone for president.
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Taking a risk and going for a kiss/physical escalation with someone you know, and getting turned down… is not sexual assualt. This was dirty guy talk, which all of us have done. When can our country focus more on the real substance and issues in an election, and less on shit like this?
8 years ago at 3:29 pmGood thing I’m not running for president. The pussification of the American public would ensure an adverse response to my past “observations” of women.
8 years ago at 4:50 pmRachel Maddow would read your comments verbatim. And use it as proof of “rape culture.”
8 years ago at 6:00 pmWould you hate fuck Rachel Maddow?
8 years ago at 6:09 pmNow? No. But shockingly, Rachel Maddow was pretty hot once upon a time before she chopped her hair and adopted the stereotypical butch lesbian look. There’s an old photo of her from high school or college where she has long blonde hair and actually looks pretty good.
8 years ago at 2:21 pmConsidering how often Greek life comes under fire for things like sexual assault…right or wrong, not sure it’s in the best interest of Greek life in general for TFM to put out this article condoning comments that have been interpreted by the general population as sexual assault.
This is article is just inviting the anti-Greek crowd to write “see! Look at how much rape culture is ingrained in frat life pieces!”
Note that none of the above reflect my opinion, just looking at the big picture here.
8 years ago at 5:16 pmI mean, not to be a hater… but by the looks of @thelifeofareilly on his instagram, the only locker room he’s been in was at boyscouts and highschool PE…
8 years ago at 4:38 amHonestly, ‘real’ locker rooms, the ones with actual athletes have dudes talking about the pussy they smashed last night or the tits on some chick, not talking about groping chicks against their will.. athletes generally don’t need to do anything against anyone’s will, they can get plenty of willing pussy. THAT is the difference between ballers and virgin punk wannabes who walk around lying about all the pussy they got from that chick at another school, in canada
What is you dipsuits don’t understand? That’s sexual assault. I hope that God you idiots never have a daughter because if you all consider this to be acceptableffective locker room talk and that’s the friends you have later on in life, then you will be decreasing her safety. I’ve tried overlook how much of idiots this site can make up because I really liked the website but I’m done. But it won’t even matter. This website will be gone by the end of election cycle.
8 years ago at 9:11 amJust because you’re fine with talking this way when girls aren’t around doesn’t mean that all, or even most other guys, act this way. Also, it’s clear that Trump is not proud of this as shown by how he reacted to being asked about it in the second debate.
8 years ago at 9:04 pmSince when is talking about women with some shred of respect not frat? Sure I’ve said some things to my boys on Saturday mornings that I wouldn’t want my mom to hear, but I’m not a 59 year old married man hitting on married chicks and advocating grabbing their pussies. I can’t imagine Reagan, the hero of this site, talking like this. Crossed the line
8 years ago at 12:29 am