Nerds With Computers Say Bama Could Not Beat The Cleveland Browns

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I spend the vast majority of my college life drunk in the back row listening to people I assume are smart telling me things. “The data shows that X Americans believe that–,” “chlamydia usually spreads at a certain rate,” “physics states that it is impossible to jump over a building, son, no matter how many AMFs you’ve had.”

But it’s 2016. Donald Trump is president. The Cubs won the World Series. Leo got his Oscar. Science doesn’t work anymore, and nothing is the way you expect.

Which brings us to football.

Fans of college football have long wondered if the best college teams in the country could hold their own against a weak NFL franchise. This year pits an unstoppable Crimson Tide against the awful Cleveland Browns.

Trying to settle this dirty couch debate once and for all, some nerds at WhitIfSports.com ran a simulation that played a game between Bama and the Browns 1,000 times. Their program predicted Cleveland winning 94% of the time.

From The Wall Street Journal:

Let’s get this out of the way right now, you college football lunatics: Alabama can’t beat the Cleveland Browns.

Sensible football minds agree that not only would it not happen, it wouldn’t be close.

The argument is that the basic fundamental physical differences between pro and college teams make it no contest. The pros are massive, overpowered behemoths with many years of experience. College players, while competent, are a bunch of flashy amateurs.

The size, the speed, the athleticism, the mentality,” said Joe Namath, the Alabama and New York Jets legend. “A pro team would really have to beat itself by fumbling, interceptions, dropping the ball…it would have to play its worst”

The nerds say players who make the pros are the elite of the elite (even on the Browns roster) and they come from all over. So you’ve got the starters on an all-star college team, most go to the NFL maybe, only the best one or two start. Because of the way the draft works, even a shitty team like the Browns is going to have some amazing talent with outstanding college careers concentrated in one place.

They also say if a game like this were ever played, there would be something else.

For decades, top college football players did compete against the pros, in a preseason charity game in Chicago that pitted college all-star seniors against the reigning NFL champions.

Alabama and Jets veteran Joe Namath played in one of these games and said, “We won the game, thank goodness. It would have been downright embarrassing.”

The Browns are already the laughing stock of the NFL. Losing to Bama would be like the Oregon Ducks losing to a middle school football team. At some point, differences in competencies kick in and the NFL players have a lot more to lose than the college players have to gain.

The size question comes up again, too. The nerds are concerned that these are quite literally adults playing children. Not only is that a boringly one sided mismatch, but it’s physically dangerous for the college players.

Versus Alabama, the Cleveland Browns would almost surely be what they seldom have been in the pros: a beautiful, dominant winning machine.

Okay, get a room already.

It’s time for me to weigh in. I say don’t count Bama out. The Crimson Tide have been called “the only program that plays with the ferocity of the NFL,” and for good reason. The nerds say the main problem in a Bama/Browns game would be scoring and offensive mismatches. What parameters are they using?

Their model simulates games one play at a time, using real life possession and turnover statistics. Of course the nerds argue you can’t directly compare Bama stats with NFL stats because the games are different and the match is uneven. If you did, it would seem Bama would run all over the Browns and obviously that would be skewed. But the uncertainty weakens the nerds’ data, too.

They also throw in all this intangible, video game shit like “fatigue rating” and “star power.” Sounds like a technical guide for Mario Baseball. The only way to really settle this is to play the game.

I’m not going to come at you with a bunch of numbers and stats and try to shove them into a square peg. I’m not even going to rehash wisdom and intuition of NFL experts.

Why? Because 2016 is the Year of Impossible Things. Everybody’s been wrong. Everybody’s been humbled, and giants fall all the time. Don’t count anything out until you see the final scoreboard.

So let them play. Do a charity game. I’ll be betting on Bama.

[via The Wall Street Journal]

Image via Instagram/ @clevelandbrowns

  1. UNCbro

    Honestly the browns are competitive even in the games they lose. They would stomp Bama. Not even a question.

    8 years ago at 12:18 pm
      1. 1_Rugey_Jentelman

        Correct. And 1% of Bama players will be drafted. Even a national collegiate all star team couldn’t take down the Browns.

        8 years ago at 12:48 pm
      2. Henry_Eighth

        I have complete faith in the Browns’ ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

        8 years ago at 3:08 pm
  2. psklumberjack

    you don’t need a computer to know this.you just have to have an above average understanding about football

    8 years ago at 12:20 pm
  3. ToPrepOrNotToPrep

    6% of high school seniors who play football go to college and play, at any level. 1% of those college seniors who play football go and play at the NFL. The NFL is made exclusively of the best of the best athletic talent. Add that to practicing with their teammates for years, age to grow their bodies, and time to figure out how to best use their body, even the worst NFL teams will beat the everloving shit out of the best college team. No question about it.

    8 years ago at 12:35 pm
  4. 21st Century Goose

    If the Vikings could sign Bama’s offensive line they’d be in the Super Bowl

    8 years ago at 1:34 pm
  5. Bro-hann Sebastian Bach

    A bunch of grown men on steroids could beat a bunch of kids. You don’t say?

    8 years ago at 2:03 pm
  6. Ramsay Bolton

    So even according to the program Albama would win 6% of the time. Which means there’s a chance.

    8 years ago at 2:24 pm
    1. What were the chances of you winning the battle of Winterfell against Snow and Little Finger?

      8 years ago at 2:42 pm
      1. Ramsay Bolton

        Probably the same as the Knights of the Vale not showing up at the last possible second. So 94%

        8 years ago at 3:32 pm
  7. Tuco_1855

    When the Tide figure out that they can’t jam in down the throats of an NFL D line and Linebacking corp, I’d love to watch Jalen Hurts try to pick apart an NFL secondary. Would be entertaining.

    8 years ago at 4:17 pm