New Evidence Suggests The SAE Racist Chant Is Not Just An OU Thing, Other Chapters Called Into Question
This onion is starting to stink to high heaven. With each new detail of the SAE racist chant story that is revealed, the more damning it looks for SAE — and now it appears it’s not just the SAE chapter at the University of Oklahoma that is guilty of chanting a similar song.
A thread was started on reddit 29 days ago that brought an alleged list of FIJI pledge rules into question. This list, while pretty damning in its own right, is irrelevant to the current situation with SAE, and not just because it’s 10 years old and has zero foundation or reason to buy its authenticity. Soon after the post hit reddit, someone posted a very interesting comment that was later mysteriously deleted. The cached version of that page, where the comment is still visible, can be found here.
The comment is below. Again, this comment was posted weeks before the OU SAE bus video surfaced.
It would appear the chant is practiced by multiple SAE chapters, albeit with different versions. Although it is not stated, the context of this comment suggests that the SAE chapter the commenter was referencing is the one at the University of Texas. The alleged FIJI pledge rule list was connected to the UT chapter in the initial post, and the commenter didn’t state a different university.
Also, there’s this:
#UT President Bill Powers says school 'looking into' reports that SAE chapter there has chant similar to #OU. More on @NBCDFW at 10.
— Brian Curtis (@BrianCurtisNBC5) March 11, 2015
Also occurring in the wake of this mess, someone came forward to reveal that he heard the same chant by members of the Louisiana Tech SAE chapter back in 2010. He told his story to BuzzFeed News.
“It was the summer of 2010. I was at a rush party at the SAE at LA. Tech house along with all the other freshman who had been invited,” Dylan Merriman wrote in an interview with BuzzFeed News. “I cant remember exactly what he [an SAE active at the party] chanted/drunkenly said but it was similar to the video that has been on social media.”
Three SAE chapters from three different states have been connected to this chant. How far does it reach? How cultural is this problem? And what is SAE going to do to fix this mess?.
[via reddit, BuzzFeed News]
And now here we have all the “witnesses” who will come forward and say, “Oh yeah, I totally heard this chant this one time at a party a few years ago.”
11 years ago at 4:41 pmDo they have any other chants?
11 years ago at 4:57 pmI feel like the main point of this story is being lost on a lot of people. Racism is bad. Period. End of discussion. These guys did something pretty god damn racist, they got caught, and now they’re facing the consequences. All this talk about fraternities being targeted and how it was a private moment and such seems, to me at least, like people are trying to justify what they did. There is no justification for it AT ALL. If you’re a racist piece of shit, you’re going to be ostracized from the community. Quite frankly, it’s better that these guys are being punished now while they’re still young and have time to turn themselves around instead of being adults and losing their jobs and families over it. But the veiled justification of what they did has to stop. All it does is perpetuate that we’re racist pieces of shit, which we all know couldn’t be further from the truth.
11 years ago at 5:32 pmIt’s bull a rush story from 2010..where he says he isn’t sure but feels like he remembers hearing a chant similar. That’s fucking stupid I’m sorry but that is in no way a legitimate story. There is no hard evidence. Dorm and the rest of the media need to stfu because one groups actions in no way set the standard for the rest of SAE. There are many SAE chapters that are culturally diverse. Think how those chapters feel being called racist and bigots. I understand the anger towards those who committed it but it is entirely unfair to incriminate other chapters based off of speculation or an ignorant idea that all SAE chapters are like this.
11 years ago at 5:44 pmSo when did TMZ take over TFM?
11 years ago at 5:55 pmHow the fuck did 10 year old FIJI pledge rules get brought into this?
11 years ago at 6:34 pmWell we aren’t racist in fayetteville, come over any given night and half the basketball/football team is over. No wonder we suck at everything
11 years ago at 7:22 pmWhat took place was deplorable and everyone involved should be punished. That being said, enough bashing SAE as a national fraternity. This incessant 24/7 coverage (not helped by TFM, by the way) could permanently destroy the fraternity’s reputation, which would harm thousands of innocent brothers.
Sad to say, this could have happened to any fraternity… Sigma Chi sticking up for SAE.
11 years ago at 8:01 pmHas anyone else thought about the implications of this whole incident in terms of future social endeavors?
At what point do those seeking political correctness find perfection? When we’re so terrified of martyrdom at the hands of a social justice keyboard warrior that the only thing we speak of or post publicly are family outings and significant life events? Or if controversial, only through anonymous mediums?
I’m not condoning the racist comments of the two men from OU SAE, but is the issuance of a few words grounds for death threats and destruction of livelihood?
While I don’t want their terrible attitudes associated with the rest of Greek life, I think that the blatant overreaction is even worse.
11 years ago at 8:05 pm“you cant hold a whole fraternity responsible for the behavior of a few sick individuals”- animal house
11 years ago at 9:38 pm