Actually Davis Loves, thats pretty much what happened. Sherman and Grant pretty much destroyed and pillaged the whole South, but congrats on holding onto a losing tradition.
RockChalkChickenHawk – remind me, who hazed the fuck out of Lawrence, KS, home to the pathetic University of Kansas? Cpt. Quantrell, CSA…if I recall correctly. And what was the scoreboard on that little “Civil War” of yours? The South killed twice as many Yankees as ya’ll killed Confederates, with half the troops. (140,414 Union KIA v. 75,524 CSA KIA) But congrats on Sherman and Grant hazing the shit out of defenseless women and children, you must be a real Kansas man, huh?
@ballball – wiki “Lost Cause.” The North had a recruiting pool twice as deep, and all the industry. The South had flooded foreign markets with cotton for the previous decade and couldn’t use that economic leverage to get international support. Grant finally decided to use sheer numbers – marching tens of thousands of Yankees into the jaws of death (because the North couldn’t tactically defeat Lee.) We literally ran out of food, bullets, boots, and youth. Too many Yankees to kill. Northern arrogance never fails to astound me.
Lee actually was not the brilliant tactician everyone made him out to be. Case and point Gettysburg. Way to take a crap at the worst possible time. His battlefield tactics were outdated and by 1864 he finally relented and listened to General Longstreet’s groundbreaking trench warfare tactics. Tactics that probably allowed the south to hold on longer than they did.
Lee did well against morons like McClellan, Hooker, et al but as soon as someone even halfway competent, in the form of General Meade, came onto the field Lee stopped winning.
When Grant finally came in as commander of the Army of the Potomac the countdown to defeat began. Yes obviously resources played a huge role, but General Lee is so SO overrated. He’s the Ernie Banks of military history.
semperty – thank you for being apparently the one southerner that understands why the south fucked themselves. about the guns and bullets, you really didn’t stand a chance on that front seeing as most of the south was economically agriculture and the north was economically industrial, capable of producing the guns and bullets needed to win a war. not being a dick just good to trade facts with someone. comment about your ignorance redacted.
Brolysses, Longstreet and Lee were both at fault at Gettysburg. If Longstreet had sent all his reinforcements to support Pickett’s charge the South would have easily broken the threshold. Lee trusted Longstreet’s decision not to send his whole company and that cost both of them the most important battle of the Civil War.
And if the South had had the men and resources thre Noth had this war would have been over in a month. That swamp donkey McClellan would have never stood a chance against a Lee-led army of equal man-power of the North.
Yeah, it’s been 150 years. If they couldn’t make it happen when they had two of the biggest cash crops in the world, their not going to make it happen with a bunch of empty farms and widespread poverty. Sorry south, but if you were going to rise it would have happened already. Any legitimate comebacks?
ballball, define “rise.” Are you expecting the South to break out in Rebellion against America or something. I think blocking out dumb yankees like you who come down and talk lound on your cell phones and tailgate the hell out of everyone was all the rise the South really wanted.
The south nearly has all of the agriculture in this country now. For you ignorant yankees that means food. You have wall street. Have fun eating money while we eat steak and drink whiskey.
This entire arguement is dumb but honestly you think the South has all the agriculture? Man you aren’t too smart. Illinois and Indiana are predominatley agricultural and have more fertile soil than almost anywhere. Nice try though
Too many Obama Lovers and Liberals up North. The South shall always remain pure Conservative, and Republican. “Democrats, with their desire for welfare NF. Republicans with their desire for success TFM.”
The south was the most democratic region of the country after the civil war (Lincoln was a republican) And then LBJ passed Kennedy’s civil rights act and the south flipped. Holding grudges NF.
I just wonder, what would be so bad about splitting America up right under the Mason Dixon line? The North can have their huge cities with rampant and out of control crime, they can reproduce asexually in gay union and get married in their Mosques under Allah, they can have their women in hijabs and have female circumcisions (another Islamic tradition, look it up if you dare). They can have their liberal socialism, flat out. Let them destroy themselves.
The South should be able to have what it always wanted, and I don’t mean slavery. I mean limited government, lower taxes, free trade, true capitalism, states’ rights, Jesus, and freedom. That’s what Southerners stand for, but these brainwashed northern liberals who learn revisionist history in their public schools will never understand.
I am from the North and I don’t fit the above description of, but I did leave to go to school in the south (SEC) and I just believe our country is best when it is united.
Kid, I don’t really care for the N v. S argument, but you are so retarded that it would probably be in the best interest of all parties involved if you just euthenized yourself…You’re literally that retarded.
Thank you Godandgunsaregood for proving that our public education system is massively flawed. And if you went to private school, I hope your dad got his money back.
Second. I’m from the North too, but i still support the South’s fight. Yes, slavery had a big part in the fight but that’s because they wanted states to get the right to decide, not the federal government. Slavery was the only way the South’s economy functioned and without it they would have collapsed.
Okay, user “because its FaF”: i’m not going to dwell on the fact that you have a misspelling in your username, that would be too easy. I will, however, take issue with the fact that you suggested I “euthenized”[sic] myself, and that i’m “literally that retarded.” why would I have a problem with that? because you bring no argument challenging what I just said. your behavior is just so typical of brainless, liberal geeds: mindless, personal attacks and no statements of fact. i’m not going to suggest you “euthenize” yourself, but I do suggest you take a lot of time to completely reevaluate yourself, and everything you stand for.
I just love getting Hammered
14 years ago at 11:56 amsmooth
14 years ago at 12:07 pmalways
14 years ago at 12:29 pmHow in any way is this a TFM?
14 years ago at 12:16 pmcompetitive arrogance is definitely a TFM so get your whiny rhetorical questions out of here
14 years ago at 12:24 pmGive me a break. The original poster is obviously attempting to start a drawn out argument not display competitive arrogance.
14 years ago at 12:49 pmThis is frat???
14 years ago at 12:17 pmWhoever posted this is just asking to get his ass kicked.
14 years ago at 12:32 pmgo get him, tough guy
14 years ago at 12:40 pm^this
14 years ago at 1:49 pmWhat are you going to do American Phi? Send him a computer virus? Dumb ass.
14 years ago at 4:35 pm^Very funny, but Kappa Sig still sucks
14 years ago at 12:52 pmyour mom fell on my dick
14 years ago at 12:49 pmYour mom choked on mine
14 years ago at 1:12 pmI had to walk out of the room when your mom whipped out hers.
14 years ago at 6:36 amthe north hazing the shit out of the south in the civil war and making it our bitch. TFM
14 years ago at 12:55 pm^If there was a fail friday for comments within posts, this would make it.
14 years ago at 1:14 pmI wouldn’t call the North beating the South in a brutal 4 year war “hazing.” Operation Desert Storm maybe.
14 years ago at 2:03 pmActually Davis Loves, thats pretty much what happened. Sherman and Grant pretty much destroyed and pillaged the whole South, but congrats on holding onto a losing tradition.
14 years ago at 3:06 pmRockChalkChickenHawk – remind me, who hazed the fuck out of Lawrence, KS, home to the pathetic University of Kansas? Cpt. Quantrell, CSA…if I recall correctly. And what was the scoreboard on that little “Civil War” of yours? The South killed twice as many Yankees as ya’ll killed Confederates, with half the troops. (140,414 Union KIA v. 75,524 CSA KIA) But congrats on Sherman and Grant hazing the shit out of defenseless women and children, you must be a real Kansas man, huh?
14 years ago at 3:15 pmNot technically hlaf, but hey who is counting
14 years ago at 3:24 pmhalf*
14 years ago at 3:24 pmsemperty – since the confederates did so well, how come you didn’t win the war? southern ignorance never fails to astound me
14 years ago at 3:45 pm@ballball – wiki “Lost Cause.” The North had a recruiting pool twice as deep, and all the industry. The South had flooded foreign markets with cotton for the previous decade and couldn’t use that economic leverage to get international support. Grant finally decided to use sheer numbers – marching tens of thousands of Yankees into the jaws of death (because the North couldn’t tactically defeat Lee.) We literally ran out of food, bullets, boots, and youth. Too many Yankees to kill. Northern arrogance never fails to astound me.
14 years ago at 4:35 pmRock Chalk, do I need to remind you why the University of Missouri’s mascot is the Tigers?
14 years ago at 4:39 pmLee actually was not the brilliant tactician everyone made him out to be. Case and point Gettysburg. Way to take a crap at the worst possible time. His battlefield tactics were outdated and by 1864 he finally relented and listened to General Longstreet’s groundbreaking trench warfare tactics. Tactics that probably allowed the south to hold on longer than they did.
Lee did well against morons like McClellan, Hooker, et al but as soon as someone even halfway competent, in the form of General Meade, came onto the field Lee stopped winning.
When Grant finally came in as commander of the Army of the Potomac the countdown to defeat began. Yes obviously resources played a huge role, but General Lee is so SO overrated. He’s the Ernie Banks of military history.
But either way, fuck kansas.
14 years ago at 4:58 pmsemperty – thank you for being apparently the one southerner that understands why the south fucked themselves. about the guns and bullets, you really didn’t stand a chance on that front seeing as most of the south was economically agriculture and the north was economically industrial, capable of producing the guns and bullets needed to win a war. not being a dick just good to trade facts with someone. comment about your ignorance redacted.
14 years ago at 5:37 pmBrolysses, Longstreet and Lee were both at fault at Gettysburg. If Longstreet had sent all his reinforcements to support Pickett’s charge the South would have easily broken the threshold. Lee trusted Longstreet’s decision not to send his whole company and that cost both of them the most important battle of the Civil War.
14 years ago at 11:24 pmAnd if the South had had the men and resources thre Noth had this war would have been over in a month. That swamp donkey McClellan would have never stood a chance against a Lee-led army of equal man-power of the North.
trying to claim the underdog card as an excuse for losing… NF
14 years ago at 4:00 pmLet’s be real, the south will never rise again
14 years ago at 1:22 pmIt will if the girl is sexy.
14 years ago at 1:30 pmYeah, it’s been 150 years. If they couldn’t make it happen when they had two of the biggest cash crops in the world, their not going to make it happen with a bunch of empty farms and widespread poverty. Sorry south, but if you were going to rise it would have happened already. Any legitimate comebacks?
14 years ago at 2:01 pm^Looking for takers on the internet. NF
14 years ago at 3:06 pmballball, define “rise.” Are you expecting the South to break out in Rebellion against America or something. I think blocking out dumb yankees like you who come down and talk lound on your cell phones and tailgate the hell out of everyone was all the rise the South really wanted.
14 years ago at 6:52 pmThe south nearly has all of the agriculture in this country now. For you ignorant yankees that means food. You have wall street. Have fun eating money while we eat steak and drink whiskey.
14 years ago at 8:18 pmUpstate New York is predominately farm land and agriculture. In that, the north is self sufficient.
14 years ago at 12:02 pmI don’t think anyone who takes keith stone as a hero can consider anyone else ignorant
14 years ago at 12:41 pmThis entire arguement is dumb but honestly you think the South has all the agriculture? Man you aren’t too smart. Illinois and Indiana are predominatley agricultural and have more fertile soil than almost anywhere. Nice try though
14 years ago at 7:38 pmToo many Obama Lovers and Liberals up North. The South shall always remain pure Conservative, and Republican. “Democrats, with their desire for welfare NF. Republicans with their desire for success TFM.”
14 years ago at 1:25 pmThe minority of Republicans in the North that are able to haze the hell out of the majority of liberal geeds in the face of all odds…..TFM.
Being a Republican and a Fratstar in the North has actual value and meaning.
Being a Republican and a Fratstar in the South is just another cool trend to follow.
14 years ago at 1:37 pmthe south remaining pure conservative by letting virginia and north carolina go to Obama. NF
14 years ago at 1:51 pmThe south was the most democratic region of the country after the civil war (Lincoln was a republican) And then LBJ passed Kennedy’s civil rights act and the south flipped. Holding grudges NF.
14 years ago at 8:37 pmThe south gave us Jimmy Carter. They also voted en masse for Clinton. Take it easy pal
14 years ago at 9:39 pm^This
14 years ago at 3:02 pmposts like this make me hate yankees more
14 years ago at 1:45 pmGet a job, geed.
14 years ago at 2:02 pmstill using the term yankees as an insult. NF. northerners arent insulted by it at all. You’re just calling me the name of my favorite team.
14 years ago at 4:06 pm^Nor are GDIs insulted by us calling them that, but we still use it. Wanna think a little harder on your rebuttal next time?
14 years ago at 8:29 pmI just wonder, what would be so bad about splitting America up right under the Mason Dixon line? The North can have their huge cities with rampant and out of control crime, they can reproduce asexually in gay union and get married in their Mosques under Allah, they can have their women in hijabs and have female circumcisions (another Islamic tradition, look it up if you dare). They can have their liberal socialism, flat out. Let them destroy themselves.
The South should be able to have what it always wanted, and I don’t mean slavery. I mean limited government, lower taxes, free trade, true capitalism, states’ rights, Jesus, and freedom. That’s what Southerners stand for, but these brainwashed northern liberals who learn revisionist history in their public schools will never understand.
14 years ago at 1:50 pmsecond
14 years ago at 2:48 pmFinally someone who actually understands what being from the South is about. Frat on good sir.
14 years ago at 2:58 pmI am from the North and I don’t fit the above description of, but I did leave to go to school in the south (SEC) and I just believe our country is best when it is united.
14 years ago at 3:06 pmcompromise = NF
14 years ago at 3:26 pmKid, I don’t really care for the N v. S argument, but you are so retarded that it would probably be in the best interest of all parties involved if you just euthenized yourself…You’re literally that retarded.
14 years ago at 4:16 pmThank you Godandgunsaregood for proving that our public education system is massively flawed. And if you went to private school, I hope your dad got his money back.
14 years ago at 4:17 pmMotion to promote Godandgunsaregood and extract ballball from TFM. Do I have a second?
14 years ago at 6:55 pmSecond. I’m from the North too, but i still support the South’s fight. Yes, slavery had a big part in the fight but that’s because they wanted states to get the right to decide, not the federal government. Slavery was the only way the South’s economy functioned and without it they would have collapsed.
14 years ago at 1:24 pmOkay, user “because its FaF”: i’m not going to dwell on the fact that you have a misspelling in your username, that would be too easy. I will, however, take issue with the fact that you suggested I “euthenized”[sic] myself, and that i’m “literally that retarded.” why would I have a problem with that? because you bring no argument challenging what I just said. your behavior is just so typical of brainless, liberal geeds: mindless, personal attacks and no statements of fact. i’m not going to suggest you “euthenize” yourself, but I do suggest you take a lot of time to completely reevaluate yourself, and everything you stand for.
14 years ago at 2:17 pm