So civil rights is NF but not knowing this country’s history and ignoring the constitution are FAF? I love the double standard he’s showing – preaching about less government intervention but wanting to meddle in the army and government-funded education. I can’t wait for him and Bachmann to drop out so the real conservatives can start fixing this country.
^That. He talks all day about Christians and Christmas having a right to practice and celebrate the way they want to, but makes it sound like he would ban homosexuals in the military. Either everyone has every right, or no one has any. You can’t pick and choose.
Both y’all shut the fuck up. As a Marine I can tell you that myself and the majority of my platoon would say that we do not want gays in our units. We are living in close quarters and frankly we do not believe that they would be appropriate. However it should not be up to you bureaucrat fuckers who think y’all know what war is. Two we should be allowed to freely celebrate Christmas every other religion can the only religion cracked down on is Christianity. Which btw our constitution is founded on the values and principles of. So you little fuckers don’t pretend you know what is best for us armed service members until you’re in a combat zone.
I never seen war I agree with u on that and in no way did I even mention armed services in my post I don’t know where you are assuming that, But I am a Firefighter/EMT, a Brother to many, Alumnus and I know a little thing about the real world. I work every day with different Paramedics, and probably one of the best medics that I work with just so happens to be gay. I’m sure people trapped in cars do not care what sexual orientation the people coming to rescue them are. Talk about being a little homophobic. I am from Kentucky and I thought we were bad at being a little backwards.. And about the religion thing there are hundreds of religions in this country, and for a candidate to support only one if he is elected is a little bit over the top. We do not need a religious nut job in the white house
^^How uncomfortable homosexuals make you feel makes no difference with regards to their rights to serve this country. What if Obama outlawed men of fraternity from joining the military because it makes GDIs uncomfortable? You wouldn’t be too pleased would you. You don’t get to decide what someone can and can not do because you feel “that they would not be appropriate”.
And Christmas is not being cracked down on. Do you forget that both Hanukkah and Kwanza occur around this time of year? Do what you want, wish people Merry Christmas until the cows come home. But don’t act like it’s just Christmas that is being censored. You don’t hear sales clerks wishing people a Happy Kwanza or Boxing Day.
^^WWW1858. From reading your responses, I think your only redeeming quality might be that you’re a member of the armed forces. You can’t spell, you’re ignorant about our country’s history, and you’re homophobic to the point of insecurity.
Everyone on this site claims to be patriotic, yet there is a sizable contingency on this thread who are against having a man or woman serving in the armed services because of their sexual orientation. What they want to do in their private lives is none of our business, they’re putting their lives on the lines to defend our freedoms, yet you can’t overlook that.
Like I said, WWW1858, I respect your profession but I would venture to guess you joined out of necessity and not for country, because you sure as hell don’t stand up for defending human rights or freedoms.
Dukie, it seems like you are very passionate about this issue! America really needs more upstanding young men like you to troll the website of a very politically conservative community and argue with them over gay rights, because, in the end, it’s not the safety of the nation that counts, it’s your feelings.
Also, your ad hominem attacks directed towards a purported armed forces member with whom you have no prior contact leads me to believe that you are an unemployed welfare collector who lives in his mother’s basement. See? I can sound smart too.
“He pointed out that 67 percent of Marines and nearly 58 percent of Army soldiers in combat units believe that repeal of the law would have negative consequences on unit cohesion in a field environment or out at sea.”
How about DADT is repealed for non-combat units only? At least until the survey numbers change. It should be entirely up to the soldiers, not you, or me, or the corrupt Washington bureaucrats.
Firstly, I would consider myself “politically conservative”. I’m just pointing out that a lot of what has been said in this post has been nothing short of “ignorant”. Please don’t ever confuse those two terms again.
Secondly, you’re right about one thing. Never have I met WWW1858. However, I have also never met Rick Perry but I have made a judgement on his character based on what he has said. Just like I have disagreed with something that WWW1858 said. None of it has to do with an inherent characteristic based on who he is as a person. Therefore, not an ad hominem argument.
Thirdly, if my social class ever starts collecting welfare, there wouldn’t be a tax bracket to feed the social net you call welfare.
Any liberal fuck who say fuck the military and and fuck the president needs to chop off their own dick and finger their bloody vagina because they dont have enough balls to stand up their own god dam freedom…your welcome by the way for the chance for your ass to be a pussy.Rick Perry knows how fucked up this country is and is telling it how it is.
The point is kids don’t need to be praying at school. They can pray and keep their delusions at home and in their churches. We send kids to school to learn and gain knowledge. And we go to college to learn, drink, screw, and have a good fucking time. Religion isn’t learning because it’s not science, logic, or correct history for that matter. What are the only books that never change? Fictional ones. Rick Perry is a shithead. Jon Huntsman is the leader this country needs. Regardless of the fact that he is a Mormon, he believes in the separation of church and state, and that’s fine by me.
There is no such fucking thing as separation of church and state. Read the constitution you fucking communist.
“Congress shall make no law respecting a religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof”
That means a state organization cannot endorse a religion or prohibit the practice of it. If a child wants to pray in school during non-class hours, they should be allowed and many states allow this in designated prayer times and prayer spaces which have been ruled constitutional as long as students of all faiths have access. Read it.
Alright Shermanater. The point I was trying to make, and clearly didn’t make it well enough, is that if this guy had it his way, intelligent design would be taught at schools (which is completely unacceptable because it is pseudo-science). I agree with you it is absolutely fine for kids to voluntarily pray in school during non class hours. That is their choice and their right; but, this chode smuggler would have schools fully endorse it. You can be as coercive and fraudulent to your children some day at your home and in your church as you want to be, that is your right. Calling me a ‘fucking communist’ when clearly I am not, otherwise I would not be a huge fan of this site, fiscal conservatism, frattiness, etc., is merely detrimental to your claims.
FR, kids don’t need to be praying at school. You say that casually. That is infringing on their beliefs though. Think of the enormous amount of time spent in school. It’s plainly ridiculous. You do not believe in religion. That is your personal belief. How is enforcing your beliefs on others morally justified?
Further knowledge is dangerous in the hands of someone that doesn’t have a deep sense of right and wrong.
You’re clearly not a gentlemen. You’re vulgar and openly chastising people’s most sacred beliefs. Technically I’d say that makes you an ass.
Legalizehazing, if you did not read my response General Sherman, I believe I made a rather large ‘throat clearing’ and corrected my first statement because I did not find it to be morally right or logically sound. I will repeat myself, it is not my place or the place of anyone else to tell children what they can and cannot do in school. I believe in religious freedom for everyone and would not dare to impose unto them myself, as I do not wish for this to be done to me. With that in mind, it is my belief that school is a place for kids not to just expand and develop knowledge, but also to explore NEW ideas so that they may make an informed decision on the natural world for themselves. You can’t honestly be an educated person and tell me that the religious beliefs of children are inherent, or they are mentally developed enough to make their religious choices for themselves. Religion is taught and passed down to children by their parents in homes and in the religious institutions they are sent to. Is it so ridiculous to have just one place where they can freely learn and challenge ideas that have been imposed on them their entire childhood? I was raised in a religious household, but fortunately school inspired to make decisions based on fact, evidence, and logic. I don’t believe I am being vulgar (with the exception of my opinions of Rick Perry) and I am not intentionally trying to offend anyone. And I certainly disagree with your statement that further knowledge is dangerous in the hands of someone that doesn’t have a deep sense of right and wrong. Wouldn’t you say that religion in the hands of someone that doesn’t have a deep sense of right and wrong is MORE dangerous? I don’t know about you, but seeing 3,000 of my countrymen dying 10 years ago in the name of Allah seems pretty fucking dangerous to me. With that in mind, I leave you with this Legalizehazing, a quote from the renowned physicist Steven Weinberg: “With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.”
Funniest post I’ve seen in a while.
14 years ago at 4:24 pmRick Perry: “Three Steps Back.”
14 years ago at 4:39 pmSo civil rights is NF but not knowing this country’s history and ignoring the constitution are FAF? I love the double standard he’s showing – preaching about less government intervention but wanting to meddle in the army and government-funded education. I can’t wait for him and Bachmann to drop out so the real conservatives can start fixing this country.
14 years ago at 4:56 pm^That. He talks all day about Christians and Christmas having a right to practice and celebrate the way they want to, but makes it sound like he would ban homosexuals in the military. Either everyone has every right, or no one has any. You can’t pick and choose.
14 years ago at 5:17 pmBoth y’all shut the fuck up. As a Marine I can tell you that myself and the majority of my platoon would say that we do not want gays in our units. We are living in close quarters and frankly we do not believe that they would be appropriate. However it should not be up to you bureaucrat fuckers who think y’all know what war is. Two we should be allowed to freely celebrate Christmas every other religion can the only religion cracked down on is Christianity. Which btw our constitution is founded on the values and principles of. So you little fuckers don’t pretend you know what is best for us armed service members until you’re in a combat zone.
14 years ago at 6:04 pmI never seen war I agree with u on that and in no way did I even mention armed services in my post I don’t know where you are assuming that, But I am a Firefighter/EMT, a Brother to many, Alumnus and I know a little thing about the real world. I work every day with different Paramedics, and probably one of the best medics that I work with just so happens to be gay. I’m sure people trapped in cars do not care what sexual orientation the people coming to rescue them are. Talk about being a little homophobic. I am from Kentucky and I thought we were bad at being a little backwards.. And about the religion thing there are hundreds of religions in this country, and for a candidate to support only one if he is elected is a little bit over the top. We do not need a religious nut job in the white house
14 years ago at 9:05 pm^^How uncomfortable homosexuals make you feel makes no difference with regards to their rights to serve this country. What if Obama outlawed men of fraternity from joining the military because it makes GDIs uncomfortable? You wouldn’t be too pleased would you. You don’t get to decide what someone can and can not do because you feel “that they would not be appropriate”.
And Christmas is not being cracked down on. Do you forget that both Hanukkah and Kwanza occur around this time of year? Do what you want, wish people Merry Christmas until the cows come home. But don’t act like it’s just Christmas that is being censored. You don’t hear sales clerks wishing people a Happy Kwanza or Boxing Day.
14 years ago at 9:54 pmI missed the part where he went down in flames. If you don’t agree with that message, I think it’s time to find another site.
14 years ago at 4:58 pm^This. I don’t understand why you would ever visit this site if this video bothers you.
14 years ago at 1:17 amThis. I love it, Thats a man with values id like to see running this great country
14 years ago at 8:40 am^This. I hear Huffington Post and FML are always looking for more readers.
14 years ago at 12:41 pm@Roll Toomers: Because you don’t have to be a fucking retard to love the fraternity life.
14 years ago at 10:26 pmAgree 100%, but goodbye Perry campaign.
14 years ago at 5:07 pmRick Perry having enough money to keep running a campaign with no chance of success.FAF.
14 years ago at 5:19 pmWhats wrong with this add?
14 years ago at 5:59 pmThere aren’t any numbers.
14 years ago at 6:00 pm^^WWW1858. From reading your responses, I think your only redeeming quality might be that you’re a member of the armed forces. You can’t spell, you’re ignorant about our country’s history, and you’re homophobic to the point of insecurity.
Everyone on this site claims to be patriotic, yet there is a sizable contingency on this thread who are against having a man or woman serving in the armed services because of their sexual orientation. What they want to do in their private lives is none of our business, they’re putting their lives on the lines to defend our freedoms, yet you can’t overlook that.
Like I said, WWW1858, I respect your profession but I would venture to guess you joined out of necessity and not for country, because you sure as hell don’t stand up for defending human rights or freedoms.
14 years ago at 9:40 pm^Fucking This. Well said.
14 years ago at 10:51 pmDukie, it seems like you are very passionate about this issue! America really needs more upstanding young men like you to troll the website of a very politically conservative community and argue with them over gay rights, because, in the end, it’s not the safety of the nation that counts, it’s your feelings.
14 years ago at 1:29 amAlso, your ad hominem attacks directed towards a purported armed forces member with whom you have no prior contact leads me to believe that you are an unemployed welfare collector who lives in his mother’s basement. See? I can sound smart too.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20024409-503544.html
“He pointed out that 67 percent of Marines and nearly 58 percent of Army soldiers in combat units believe that repeal of the law would have negative consequences on unit cohesion in a field environment or out at sea.”
How about DADT is repealed for non-combat units only? At least until the survey numbers change. It should be entirely up to the soldiers, not you, or me, or the corrupt Washington bureaucrats.
14 years ago at 1:37 amCrockett, thank you sir
14 years ago at 4:06 amDukie5440- marry me. <3
14 years ago at 6:53 amOK, Crockett. I’ll bite.
Firstly, I would consider myself “politically conservative”. I’m just pointing out that a lot of what has been said in this post has been nothing short of “ignorant”. Please don’t ever confuse those two terms again.
Secondly, you’re right about one thing. Never have I met WWW1858. However, I have also never met Rick Perry but I have made a judgement on his character based on what he has said. Just like I have disagreed with something that WWW1858 said. None of it has to do with an inherent characteristic based on who he is as a person. Therefore, not an ad hominem argument.
Thirdly, if my social class ever starts collecting welfare, there wouldn’t be a tax bracket to feed the social net you call welfare.
14 years ago at 2:34 amOk…I reread my first post. The last line was ad hominem. Lacing them up
14 years ago at 2:40 amAny liberal fuck who say fuck the military and and fuck the president needs to chop off their own dick and finger their bloody vagina because they dont have enough balls to stand up their own god dam freedom…your welcome by the way for the chance for your ass to be a pussy.Rick Perry knows how fucked up this country is and is telling it how it is.
14 years ago at 6:16 pm“any liberal who says fuck…the president needs to chop their own dick and…”
Dont you say Fuck Obama on this site all the time?
14 years ago at 7:36 pm^^That has to be the most illiterate paragraph I have ever read in my entire life. How did you get into college?
14 years ago at 3:24 pmToo many fucks were given here.
14 years ago at 6:21 pmThe point is kids don’t need to be praying at school. They can pray and keep their delusions at home and in their churches. We send kids to school to learn and gain knowledge. And we go to college to learn, drink, screw, and have a good fucking time. Religion isn’t learning because it’s not science, logic, or correct history for that matter. What are the only books that never change? Fictional ones. Rick Perry is a shithead. Jon Huntsman is the leader this country needs. Regardless of the fact that he is a Mormon, he believes in the separation of church and state, and that’s fine by me.
14 years ago at 6:31 pmThere is no such fucking thing as separation of church and state. Read the constitution you fucking communist.
“Congress shall make no law respecting a religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof”
That means a state organization cannot endorse a religion or prohibit the practice of it. If a child wants to pray in school during non-class hours, they should be allowed and many states allow this in designated prayer times and prayer spaces which have been ruled constitutional as long as students of all faiths have access. Read it.
14 years ago at 10:49 pmAlright Shermanater. The point I was trying to make, and clearly didn’t make it well enough, is that if this guy had it his way, intelligent design would be taught at schools (which is completely unacceptable because it is pseudo-science). I agree with you it is absolutely fine for kids to voluntarily pray in school during non class hours. That is their choice and their right; but, this chode smuggler would have schools fully endorse it. You can be as coercive and fraudulent to your children some day at your home and in your church as you want to be, that is your right. Calling me a ‘fucking communist’ when clearly I am not, otherwise I would not be a huge fan of this site, fiscal conservatism, frattiness, etc., is merely detrimental to your claims.
14 years ago at 11:04 pmFR- You sir, are indeed a gentleman and a scholar.
14 years ago at 3:00 pm^Thank you Mr. Petty. You , my good sir, are a man of respect and principle.
14 years ago at 10:09 pmFR, kids don’t need to be praying at school. You say that casually. That is infringing on their beliefs though. Think of the enormous amount of time spent in school. It’s plainly ridiculous. You do not believe in religion. That is your personal belief. How is enforcing your beliefs on others morally justified?
14 years ago at 3:10 pmFurther knowledge is dangerous in the hands of someone that doesn’t have a deep sense of right and wrong.
You’re clearly not a gentlemen. You’re vulgar and openly chastising people’s most sacred beliefs. Technically I’d say that makes you an ass.
Legalizehazing, if you did not read my response General Sherman, I believe I made a rather large ‘throat clearing’ and corrected my first statement because I did not find it to be morally right or logically sound. I will repeat myself, it is not my place or the place of anyone else to tell children what they can and cannot do in school. I believe in religious freedom for everyone and would not dare to impose unto them myself, as I do not wish for this to be done to me. With that in mind, it is my belief that school is a place for kids not to just expand and develop knowledge, but also to explore NEW ideas so that they may make an informed decision on the natural world for themselves. You can’t honestly be an educated person and tell me that the religious beliefs of children are inherent, or they are mentally developed enough to make their religious choices for themselves. Religion is taught and passed down to children by their parents in homes and in the religious institutions they are sent to. Is it so ridiculous to have just one place where they can freely learn and challenge ideas that have been imposed on them their entire childhood? I was raised in a religious household, but fortunately school inspired to make decisions based on fact, evidence, and logic. I don’t believe I am being vulgar (with the exception of my opinions of Rick Perry) and I am not intentionally trying to offend anyone. And I certainly disagree with your statement that further knowledge is dangerous in the hands of someone that doesn’t have a deep sense of right and wrong. Wouldn’t you say that religion in the hands of someone that doesn’t have a deep sense of right and wrong is MORE dangerous? I don’t know about you, but seeing 3,000 of my countrymen dying 10 years ago in the name of Allah seems pretty fucking dangerous to me. With that in mind, I leave you with this Legalizehazing, a quote from the renowned physicist Steven Weinberg: “With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.”
14 years ago at 6:23 pm