Texas Takes One Step Closer To Allowing Students To Carry Concealed Guns On Campus
Campus carry has been widely debated across the nation. Should students with their CHL be allowed to carry their concealed handgun on campus? Currently, in Texas, a CHL holder is allowed to carry a concealed handgun only in public places, such as the quad. The Texas government is looking to change that to allow students to carry them in campus buildings and dorms.
Senate Bill 11 was put to a vote in the House last night right before a midnight deadline. The results were heavily favored in the “yes” end of the spectrum.
From Houston Chronicle:
With a midnight deadline to pass Senate bills looming, the House approved the legislation by a vote of 101-47. The vote was triggered when lawmakers, who had filed more than 100 amendments to the bill, agreed to pull them down after the bill was amended to a point amenable to both Democrats and Republicans.
The bill would require both private and public institutions to implement the law. It also allows each campus to determine exactly where concealed handguns would be allowed on campus. The bill will go through House approval one more time before being sent to the Senate.
What do you think? Should students with CHLs be allowed to carry concealed handguns on campus?.
[via Houston Chronicle]
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I love this god damn country, but allowing drunken degenerates to Concealed Carry in their dorms may be a tad foolish
10 years ago at 2:40 pmYou may be a tad foolish
10 years ago at 2:47 pmYou have to be 21 to get your CHL (in Texas) so it’s unlikely that someone who lives in the dorms is even old enough to have theirs
10 years ago at 2:53 pmWhich is why it is almost always a crime to carry a firearm while under the influence of alcohol or any controlled substance.
10 years ago at 6:54 pmNot a crime in Florida, only to use it while over the legal driving limit.
10 years ago at 8:35 pmWhich is why I said ‘almost always’ and being under the legal limit is not under the influence
10 years ago at 3:55 amIn Tennessee it is illegal to carry if you have any alcohol in your system, regardless of the legal limit.
10 years ago at 12:05 pmI’m a firm supporter of the 2nd Amendment, and believe you should be able to own a firearm on a college campus. Although as gun owners its our responsibility to prove legislation right and do everything in our power to limit “incidents” on campuses, should they go through with this.
10 years ago at 2:41 pmYou know what would be a great place for this discussion?
10 years ago at 2:41 pmThe F*rum. Just sayin’…
This is a stupid fucking bill and if it passes it will be an embarrassment to our state.
10 years ago at 2:41 pmUntil some psycho strolls into a crowded class, fed up with his grade, and starts to fire wildly. In my opinion, the ones with CHL’s are the ones you want with guns in the first place, they take it seriously enough to go through proper channels.
10 years ago at 2:44 pmCouldn’t be more right, anyone with the drive to get a CHL knows the proper way to conduct themselves carrying a firearm. I’m a drunken degenerate most nights but have a finger print safe in my room for my protection. I refuse to show people it at parties and only take it out to clean or shoot at the range. If every campus had this a criminal might think twice about assaulting a college girl if she could have a 38 special in her back pack
10 years ago at 2:49 pmThis wouldn’t have stopped the Columbine or VT shootings. I doubt this will change much in the future either; a couple muggings avoided, a couple accidental drunken gun injuries. Some of you on here are crazy though with the shit you think up.
10 years ago at 3:39 pmYou’re telling me that knowing students are armed and protected wouldn’t make mass shooters think twice? You’re a fucking idiot.
10 years ago at 6:00 pmMass shooters aren’t typically rational thinkers and probably won’t think twice, most of them intend on dying at the end of their spree… I’m all for responsible gun owners carrying on campus but let’s be honest that’s not a deterrent
10 years ago at 7:09 pmPlease tell me more about how you plan to use your pistol against a shooter methodically moving with a high-powered carbine. 13 people died at Columbine. 32 people died at VT. Think about how many more will die in drunk, gun-related incidents if this law was passed nation-wide vs. how often “heroes” like you would save the day in a chance occurrence like this.
More often than not, school shootings happen in grade school. These are isolated incidents with intended targets, and nothing more, between students that were going nowhere in life to begin with. So yeah, carry your gun with your CHL in hopes that you can go play hero someday, you’re doing real good, sport.
Also understand for every one of you that preaches “I don’t show my gun at parties, I only take it out to clean it” and such, there are a helluva lot more dumbasses, not present here, that are capable of obtaining a CHL, many of whom are the people you’d never trust with a gun.
So please, lap me because I’m not following your radical “hey we all should carry weapons” logic, and because I won’t play in to your fantasy of being the hero. You need a reality check, because that’s just not how life works.
10 years ago at 8:14 pmA traffic cop singlehandedly shot and killed two heavily armed Islamic terrorists in Garland Texas about a month ago. I think you greatly overestimate just how powerful assault rifles are, especially in the hands of inexperienced shooters. Well trained individuals armed with only a handgun can actually do a lot to neutralize better armed threats.
10 years ago at 8:54 pm“Well-trained.” Like we’re well trained?
10 years ago at 8:57 pmThat’s what taking a class to get your CHL and taking it to the range to practice are meant for, you idiot. Ever wonder why people who get guns illegally are shitty shooters?
10 years ago at 6:17 amRight. Visiting the range for your CHL makes you “well-trained.”
10 years ago at 6:51 amThe point of a CCW is not to play hero, it is to protect yourself and those around you. Anyone who carries a firearm knows that it is for defense and would not go looking for a shooter. You get a CCW in case the shooter comes into the room you are in so that you can defend yourself.
10 years ago at 12:25 pmIt’s not radical dipshit, it’s a right we all have. I can’t “bear” my firearms if laws force me to keep them locked in my safe. Again, permit holders are required to have firearms training, so if an entire campus is trained, then one assailant won’t get as far before someone drops him.
10 years ago at 5:33 pmTake a God damn lap
10 years ago at 6:38 pmHow difficult is it to obtain a CHL?
10 years ago at 3:39 pmDepends on the state, but most require a hand gun safety course with scored shooting, background check (no felonies, and no violent history), application, finger printing, paying a fee, and waiting for all of paperwork to go through the FBI/State investigative services. It can take months for some.
10 years ago at 5:41 pm* Rising is right, fuck you Steve Holt and laps taken for the wrong reply
10 years ago at 2:51 pmI bet Steve Holt is a fucking vegan too.
10 years ago at 3:11 pmYou’re a fuckin commie pig, steve holt
10 years ago at 3:36 pmYou’re an embarrassment to our state
10 years ago at 6:37 pmSteven, redeem yourself and TFM by reopening the forums.
10 years ago at 8:55 pmMost college kids arn’t mature enough to handle a gun
10 years ago at 2:42 pm“The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun, is a good guy with a gun”- Wayne LaPierre
10 years ago at 3:11 pmLike trained police officers
10 years ago at 3:43 pmWho usually show up 10 minutes after the crime occurred
10 years ago at 3:45 pmAnd cops can be real dicks
10 years ago at 5:05 pmWhen seconds matter, the police are only minutes away.
10 years ago at 7:11 pmThe real war on women is waged by those who don’t want to give them the legal right to protect themselves. Criminals fear situations where the citizens are armed. God Bless Texas for standing up for its women.
10 years ago at 3:13 pmYou realize this is a site for guys right?
10 years ago at 3:49 pmWhat’s the matter, you don’t like women or something?
10 years ago at 4:26 pmI know this sites demographic but I feel like it’s worth being said. People RARELY react in high stress situations like they think they do. It’s been proven time and time again that the most efficient armed civilians have extensive training and have actually put it into work. The average college student hasn’t shot someone in the heat of combat. Owning a revolver doesn’t make you Dirty Harry. And multiple inexperienced gun owners sure as shit doesn’t diffuse deadly situations.
10 years ago at 3:18 pmI would hope it would serve as a deterrent against those who illegally have guns and are planning on using them. You have a really good point though, and I feel like if there ever was a shooting what is to stop some college kid who’s pumped full of adrenaline from accidentally shooting someone who he thinks is a murderer. That being said, campuses used to have people with guns and had no problems. My dads generation would walk into middle/highschool with their hunting rifles. Heck, he even used his BB gun to shoot birds and squirrels on Uga’s campus. If you did that nowadays the national guard would be called.
10 years ago at 4:40 pmThanks for a mature response.
10 years ago at 4:52 pmI agree with your point. The deterrent idea is similar to racking your shotgun when someone breaks in, they know you’re not fucking around. However, I still sure as fuck don’t want to be in the crossfire of a first timers shootout, even this nation’s finest kill bystanders accidentally.
Racking your shotgun is probably the most effective self defense method there is. Being on the wrong end of that sound would make anyone’s blood run cold.
10 years ago at 8:23 pmI don’t know how feasible or logical it would be, but if only veterans/ROTC would be allowed to concealed carry that could be a better alternative than anyone who passes a background check.
10 years ago at 6:08 amOr have concealed carriers take a self-defense class. I don’t know
10 years ago at 6:10 amIf they’re anything like they are at my school, the ROTC kids will be more trigger happy than the usual student. They all have the “I’m a badass cause I wear camo on Wednesdays” attitude but only like 2 of them have prior service. And they all have a Hero syndrome. I respect their decisions for future service, but these kids are currently ill suited to act correctly in difficult situations. I honestly believe that a Campus Carry Class should be required for college students, in addition to the basic class, to cover things like active shooter scenarios. And schools should offer them.
10 years ago at 11:16 amIt wouldn’t be the Wild West like everyone thinks it would be if students could carry. There wouldn’t be movie style shoot outs. It is a self defense tool. If you are in the immediate vicinity then maybe you would fire, other than that you just get the fuck away and not complicate the situation. As you said previously people don’t respond well to crisis situations, even cops accuracy dramatically drops in a high stress situation. So I don’t think people would be out hunting a shooter or trying to snipe with a handgun.
10 years ago at 8:56 amUhm obviously you’ve never been to Texas… everybody knows how to shoot here and I know plenty of guys in college that also have military contracts.
10 years ago at 6:37 pmThere’s a difference between knowing how to shoot and how a person with a gun responds during a stressful situation.
10 years ago at 9:13 pmMerica
10 years ago at 3:33 pmThe second amendment protects all the rest
10 years ago at 3:36 pm