The Civil War II: North Frats vs. Southern Fraternities, Part 2

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“Civil war? What does that mean? Is there any foreign war? Isn’t every war fought between men, between brothers?” – Victor Hugo

Before we get this started, I’d just like to take a moment and address the midwesterners who were kind enough to write in after Part 1, asking where their consideration was. You were considered…as a part of the North, because that’s where you live. This speaks to a larger issue I have with the opinions of some Midwesterners: namely, that you are not “the best of both worlds.” To compare your manner to the South is an insult to the typical Southern gentleman — most of you can’t even be bothered to not wear sweatpants. And to downplay an association with the Northeast is like Princess Jasmine costuming as a gutter slut to escape her rich, hilarious dad who gave her a pet tiger. Don’t get cute, guys. You have no oceans, no mountains, no unique culture, history, or cuisine, and your two largest industries are government subsidized. Don’t get me wrong, I love the Midwest — the Big Ten schools are fantastic places, and figure prominently in the thought process of these articles — but a spade is a spade. Embrace who you are: a subsect of the north that’s slightly nicer, lacking an accent, and poorly dressed.

With that out of the way, let’s get on with it. Last week, the South eked out a victory on the General Attitude category of the Civil War, giving them the early 1-0 lead. This week we dive into some turbulent waters: Who are the better partiers? As always, comments are welcome so long as you agree with everything I say and you’re not from California. Let’s do this:

Partying Ability

First, as always, a story. A few years ago, I traveled down to Tuscaloosa to attend the PSU vs. Alabama game. It being my first tailgating experience in the SEC, I was blown away. Tents everywhere, beautiful coeds in dresses, grills hot, and televisions running on generators. Sure, you can find these same things at Michigan, or Ohio State, or Penn State (minus the dresses, but stay tuned next week for more on that), but it’s to a whole other level in the SEC. I guess the best way I can put it is that the SEC is just so ORGANIZED. It’s as if every individual has a particular duty that they know deeply, inherently even — a devout commitment to gameday. The result is the most welcoming, navigable, clean, delicious, and well-stocked tailgates I’ve ever witnessed. It’s a perfect, pleasant experience.

Anyway, that day, some young alumni from Penn State threw their own tailgate (fill in a couple short details here – this was the exact tailgate I was at. I even remember the guy putting up the pathetic “P” on those columns (see above photo) like it was his 5th grade art project. It’s probably a result of the post-party ex-swagger-ation, but it DID feel as if women and children watched in horror as I tried to see if drinking at the same time as peeing would result in me peeing forever (for science). Undergrads called us classless, old-timers worried for our health, and the school paper featured a story on the next Monday accusing Penn State of being a school of disgusting animals. All of them were right, of course. We rolled in by the hundreds with Breaking Bad RVs, cases of cheap vodka, 30 racks of Keith Stone stacked to the sky, and a few bags of Cool Ranch Doritos. We went absolutely berserk and it was a complete insult to Southern culture. Nothing about it was perfect OR pleasant. But you know what? It was a blast.

See, there’s the thing. If you’re from the South, you know how steeped in tradition, religion, and family you are. Mom tousled your hair while she finished the grits and waited for your father to come home and fix an old-fashioned. But the North is this region of latchkey kids who spent their youth raiding their parents prescription and liquor cabinets because Mom and Dad were busy at depositions. So, by extension, the South runs these perfect little well-adjusted, well-dressed get-togethers while the Northern kids try harder and harder to blur the line between “fun” and “weird.” Frankly, they have no idea how to even throw a party, and the result is less classical, more jazz. There are no rules about who’s allowed to come, what to wear, how liquors need to mix together, or what music needs to play. What’s born of that is sometimes an awful flop of a kegger, sure, but occasionally it sparks into the type of pandemonium I don’t believe is possible at Southern schools. Only in the North can I say that I’ve been to parties that I was actually AFRAID of. I’ve seen men fall from balconies, women make love to each other on dance floors, and cars lit on fire. Only in the North do the parties become riots. And this was at Delaware. That’s not even Division 1, in football OR social life. I drank at these parties, partially because it was somewhat enjoyable, yes, but partially because the best way to survive a dangerous undertow is just to swim with it.

Truthfully, if you ask me which party I’d rather go to, I’ll tell you a Southern party. I would look forward to that. Beautiful women dressed nicely and bourbon neat all night, that’s a fun night for a guy who has already graduated. I know what I’m getting into. But this is college. College parties should be like a scary movie: twists, turns, and weird. One time I had a buddy who quit drinking for a month to “dry out.” When he came back to the sauce, I asked him what changed, and he said he started knowing where he was going to end up every night. He said alcohol brought an exciting uncertainty to it all, and without it, every night was fine, but no night was going to be incredible. To him, alcohol wasn’t just a vehicle to get drunk; it was the art of the possible. So I can say this: Yes, I’d rather go to a Southern party. It’s the more comfortable choice. But Northern parties showed me the art of the possible — how far life could be stretched when everyone flails to live more. Sometimes it’s a disaster, but they’ve also been the best times of my life.

Partying Ability: The North wins over The South. We’re all tied up at 1.

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  1. PartyatPurdue

    Southern fraternities have their image of being classy. Northern fraternities have their reputation of throwing ragers. I’ll take the ragers anyday.

    11 years ago at 1:45 pm
    1. warfuckingdrink

      yeah that is how image an repuation works. in real life were just better at both. imagine a bunch of southern baptist freshmen girls drinking tequila for their first time…thats a fucking rager… we shit on the north…all ur girls are already beat and experienced when they get into college bc the north is a land of the soulless

      11 years ago at 4:04 pm
  2. GodBlessTheFrat

    I’ve never been to a southern frat party before but I’ll tell you this:

    Iowa, Penn State, Ohio State, Michigan, Deleware, Syracuse, Michigan State, Illinois@Champaign, Miami of Ohio, Ohio University, Wisconsin go as hard, as hard as anywhere.

    As for the sweatpants thing:

    Most people in the North come from big cities and if you show up to a party in the North wearing croakies and a pink bow tie, you are are getting knocked the fuck out, laughed at, or you’re not getting a bid for looking like a desperate and pathetic twat. People in the North are too busy laughing and having fun to even give shit what people wear. Come naked for all we fucking care. It’s about the good times and nothing else.

    I hear all about The South and all its dixie glory which makes me want to visit, then read about how sororities at Alabama will only let white girls in and it just reminds how could so many people down there still be a bunch of barrel assed rednecks stuck in the 1950’s? Get your dick out of your cousin already Danny Bob Earl Steve.

    11 years ago at 1:52 pm
    1. OMFratRebel

      When the women at your parties look as good as ours do, you have to look good too. Try picking up a 10 in sweatpants.

      11 years ago at 9:02 pm
    2. fratilini

      You must be a GDI, if you want a bid in my chapter at Illinois you better dress fratty. You must be a TKE. Fucking GEED frat.

      11 years ago at 11:43 pm
    3. warfuckingdrink

      ^^^totally gets it…you gotta look nice for sexy ass southern belles. I mean sometimes I hit the bar in a t-shirt, but ill be leaving that night with a girl ive already banged or some random gutterslut….but if im trying to get a girl i really like whose sexy as hell im atleast gonna show some effort and throw on a nice shirt or something

      11 years ago at 4:13 pm
    4. Mitchell Sandstone

      Get the fuck outta here with the “I’m not gonna wear a bo wtie and croakies because I’m not a tryhard.” Miami of Ohio isn’t called J.Crew U for nothing. If you don’t look good, then the girls that you pull must not look good. Illinois, IU, OU, and Ohio State wear all the shit that any “typical” frat boy does. As for the partying, I think that OSU, Miami OH, IU, Illinois, UMich, MIch State, and Wisco go pretty fucking hard.

      11 years ago at 12:38 pm
  3. Tuco1855

    Because of the population gap, the South treats regional pride like the North does city pride, and there’s nothing wrong with that. Northerners don’t give a shit about “the North” as a unit, and they surely don’t give a shit about the South. To put this into perspective, the Chicago Metropolitan area is larger than the entire population of South Carolina and Alabama combined.

    It’s hard to write columns like this because jTrain really doesn’t know shit outside of New York and Happy Valley. They’ll keep coming though because they’re controversial…you know, the Skip Bayless approach.

    11 years ago at 2:04 pm
    1. White Guy

      People from NYC and Chicago are incredibly ignorant and think that those are the only two cities/places in the country that matter. I lived in Milwaukee before moving to Atlanta and the Chicago folks would come to WI to vacation and try and run the state, while constantly claiming WI is so shitty.

      11 years ago at 2:27 pm
    2. Douglas MacArthur

      I had a lot of guys from the Chicago suburbs in my house, and, damn, their Chicago circle-jerks are annoying as fuck.

      11 years ago at 3:33 pm
    3. Grandpa

      Growing up in Wisconsin, I have learned it is not always best to hate those FIBS [Fucking Illinois Bastards; for those of you not from Wisconsin or Chicago] even if they are the most annoying and disrespectful people around, because they help fund for a lot of our public works.

      11 years ago at 12:35 pm
    4. Dwight D Fratenhower

      Milwaukee is an unbelievably awesome city, and Miller Park is one of the best experiences you will ever have at a pro game. Tuco is right, northerners care about and defend their city, southerners defend their state or a whole region. You will never hear a Charleston guy say “fuck Mobile.”

      11 years ago at 4:11 am
    5. Broston Tea Party

      As a Chicago boy, who went to school in Milwaukee, I love both cities to death. I just CAN’T STAND the Packers. Bear Down, baby.

      11 years ago at 9:04 pm
  4. MatteoAvs

    I love this article, but you made some false statements about the Midwest. Specifically, you said that it had no mountains, so I’m assuming the Rocky Mountains are fake?

    11 years ago at 2:11 pm
    1. Tuco1855

      ^Yes they are. Thank you… Colorado, the Rockies, and the Mountain West conference are NOT located in the Midwest. Is that clear enough for you?

      11 years ago at 1:02 am
  5. MadFratter1909

    If your from the North and all you do is party like a Northerner, than naturally when you head on down South, not only do you get slapped in the face with culture shock, but you find the differences pleasant. You take for granted what you have, and you long for what you don’t have. In conclusion, DON’T THINK JUST DRINK. The North and South should be able to get behind that. Peace achieved people!

    11 years ago at 2:18 pm
    1. Tuco1855

      ^Midwest= Great Lakes+Great Plains. Nobody cares about the Great Plains(Nebraska, Dakotas, Kansas) They might as well be the west.

      11 years ago at 4:20 pm
    2. Apricots

      This makes no sense coming from a Nebraskian. Your school is in the same shit bucket these Southern ones are in.

      11 years ago at 1:10 am
  6. I am drot nunk

    “It’s as if every individual has a particular duty that they know deeply, inherently even — a devout commitment to gameday.”

    They’re called pledges.

    11 years ago at 2:26 pm
  7. Capt_Peeonbutt

    At first I was excited for this series, but after reading this garbage I’m thinking, “Will this really go on for 9 unbearable parts.” The south being better has been a well known fact of Greek life for quite some time. There, I wrapped it up in a comment, not a 9 part series.
    Also Jtrain, fuck you…. and everything you stand for.

    11 years ago at 2:31 pm