If it’s genetic, how can you have a set of twins, one gay, the other straight? I don’t buy the “born this way” argument at all, and no Lady Gaga song is going to change that, TCT. The only “proof” is gay people not wanting to change their ways.
Interestingly enough, women choose to have sex with men all the time, so this argument isn’t very convincing. Not to mention the plethora of evidence that men with shitty/absentee fathers later turn out to be gay. Your son not being gay because you were a good dad to him = TFM and RFM.
If it’s genetic why do we not see this behavior in any other animal?
“But wait, TrickleDown, there are plenty of animals that exhibit homosexual behavior and have gay sex!”
No, shut the fuck up hypothetical geed. While other animals indeed have gay sex, it is only when they are unable to find an acceptable mate of the other species. When this happens the animal drops its same-sex relationship for a male and female one. No other animals are “chronically gay” to put it crassly.
^ The passage linked by Frat Czar also indicates that Bonobo monkeys engage in incest. So, by the reasoning implied, would incest not be a completely natural and normal behavior to those who think that gay animal behavior validates gay human behavior? I’m sure I’m not the only one that takes issue with that reasoning. It’s faulty reasoning, get a better argument.
And the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error. – Romans 1:27. BOOM
I don’t give a fuck what your hippy logic says, I read the bible bitch.
Amen dude, it’s fucking wrong and those who think otherwise will burn in hell. Have any of you people heard of sodom and Gomorra? If not read a book… The Bible
It’s actually scientifically proven that if you have twins, and one of them is gay, that the other twin is likely to be gay as well. I believe it’s something like 85% for identical twins and 50% for fraternal twins. I can’t remember the exact numbers, but covered it in human genetics.
Czar wasn’t trying to say that we should model our sexual behavior off the fucked up deviants that Bonobos are, he was merely pointing out the ignorance inherent in TrickleDown’s post.
Lifestyle, you can also have one twin with darker hair than the other, or one twin who’s slightly taller than the other, or any number of slight genetic differences.
Fratsman, there are an abundance of counterexamples to your point, both of good fathers who raised gay sons and shitty fathers whose son(s) turned out straight.
And Judge, I think it’s great that you believe in the Bible and it’s teachings. It’s a great book full of lots of helpful, relevant advice on how to live a moral and proper life. But it was also written several hundred years ago and includes shit that just shouldn’t be applied to our modern society. God may infallible, but the humans who wrote the Bible were not.
Think back on your entire life. Was there ever a point in your life in which you thought deeply about it and decided to be attracted to girls? The fact is humans can’t help which gender they’re attracted to. Most are attracted to the opposite, some are attracted to the same, some are attracted to both, and a handful are attracted to neither. The day I start caring enough about the sexual preferences of other guys to try to dictate who they can and cannot fuck will be the day I campaign against people buying beer I don’t like, having the wrong color hair, or not liking the same movies I do.
It isn’t possible to inherit a “gay gene”. There isn’t any “gay gene” to inherit. The whole argument for being predisposed to homosexuality is based off of the levels of certain hormones (specifically estrogen and testosterone) in an unborn child’s brain. But here’s the thing: Supposing homosexuality is a factor of genetics, then why hasn’t it been weeded out by evolution? It obviously doesn’t result in successful reproduction & survival, so by the laws of genetics homosexuality should have died off a long, long time ago. Now I believe in evolution, the divinely inspired kind. It doesn’t conflict with my theology. Likewise, I also believe that the Bible is divinely inspired. Given, there are things here and there that don’t necessarily apply to this place and time. The same could also be said of the United States Constitution. but the Bible is the Word of God, and when it says that homosexuality is plain wrong, that leaves me no choice but to believe that it’s not right and unnatural. Should we tolerate it? Yes. Should we love them anyway, as God’s children? Sure. Does that make their lifestyle right? No.
and Fratsman, evolution does carry on bad traits when they are combined with traits that are significantly good. For example, evolution won’t filter out sickle cell disease because it provides a genetic resistance to malaria which is a more immediate threat to survival. So people running around in Africa or wherever the fuck it is that people usually get malaria will not get malaria as kids, not die young and live long enough to reproduce, but then die when they hit 30 from sickle cell
^ Sure, dude. I doubt you have any sort of background in genetic training (not that I do), but I’ll give you that one. But how is that applicable when homosexual reproduction is literally not even possible? Genes can’t be passed on if they’re never given the chance.
Intern what the FUCK is this?
14 years ago at 2:13 pmHe was that kid I’m guessing.
14 years ago at 6:36 pm^Fucking this
14 years ago at 6:40 pmGay son TFM. Lesbian daughter NF
14 years ago at 2:15 pm…
14 years ago at 2:37 pmOther way around chief. I’d be content with a lesbian daughter and all of her lesbian sorority friends.
14 years ago at 2:48 pmThats just fuckin weird
14 years ago at 3:08 pmSigma Raw Dogging your daughter. TFT… You know what, no. You’re a fucking creep.
14 years ago at 3:11 pmI’d love to see the expression on Sigma Raw’s face when his daughter brings an ugly bull dyke home.
14 years ago at 5:51 pmPlease run into a knife
14 years ago at 2:16 pmThis shouldn’t have been put up til Friday
14 years ago at 2:32 pm^
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14 years ago at 9:12 pmV
14 years ago at 9:31 amThe room is spinnin’ cause of…. cause of all the gayness….
14 years ago at 2:33 pmSolid.
14 years ago at 5:41 pm^^^
14 years ago at 5:52 pmTWillFerrellM.
14 years ago at 6:58 pmYou could always beat him straight
14 years ago at 2:34 pmYou could always beat him. Off
14 years ago at 2:52 pm^ As queer as that was, it was funny
14 years ago at 6:37 pmWhat. The. Fuck.
14 years ago at 2:36 pmGay son? Both of you can take a lap and after that can bang each other in the showers.
14 years ago at 2:36 pm^ TotalFratduskyMove
14 years ago at 4:26 pmCan’t wait until one of you actually has a gay son and actually don’t kill him and actually learn that people are actually born gay. Actually.
It’s not a choice. Who would choose to have sex with a man? Anyone here? Didn’t think so. It’s genetic.
Fuckin’ knowledge bombs. Lace em up and pucker your buttholes.
14 years ago at 2:37 pm^somebody get this guy and his sanity off of TFM. Ignorance is FaF.
14 years ago at 2:38 pmYeah, it is. Facts and reality have a well-known liberal bias.
14 years ago at 2:48 pmIf it’s genetic, how can you have a set of twins, one gay, the other straight? I don’t buy the “born this way” argument at all, and no Lady Gaga song is going to change that, TCT. The only “proof” is gay people not wanting to change their ways.
14 years ago at 2:52 pmInterestingly enough, women choose to have sex with men all the time, so this argument isn’t very convincing. Not to mention the plethora of evidence that men with shitty/absentee fathers later turn out to be gay. Your son not being gay because you were a good dad to him = TFM and RFM.
14 years ago at 2:55 pm^^^that
14 years ago at 2:56 pmIf it’s genetic why do we not see this behavior in any other animal?
“But wait, TrickleDown, there are plenty of animals that exhibit homosexual behavior and have gay sex!”
No, shut the fuck up hypothetical geed. While other animals indeed have gay sex, it is only when they are unable to find an acceptable mate of the other species. When this happens the animal drops its same-sex relationship for a male and female one. No other animals are “chronically gay” to put it crassly.
14 years ago at 2:58 pm^
14 years ago at 5:35 pm^ you’re a fucking idiot.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonobo#Sexual_social_behavior
14 years ago at 5:42 pmHey dumbass, if “absentee fathers” were the cause of homosexuality, then every black man in America would be gay.
14 years ago at 5:52 pmYou’re probably gay.
14 years ago at 5:53 pm^
14 years ago at 10:16 pm^ The passage linked by Frat Czar also indicates that Bonobo monkeys engage in incest. So, by the reasoning implied, would incest not be a completely natural and normal behavior to those who think that gay animal behavior validates gay human behavior? I’m sure I’m not the only one that takes issue with that reasoning. It’s faulty reasoning, get a better argument.
14 years ago at 6:11 pmAnd the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error. – Romans 1:27. BOOM
14 years ago at 6:11 pmI don’t give a fuck what your hippy logic says, I read the bible bitch.
Amen dude, it’s fucking wrong and those who think otherwise will burn in hell. Have any of you people heard of sodom and Gomorra? If not read a book… The Bible
14 years ago at 8:13 pmIt’s actually scientifically proven that if you have twins, and one of them is gay, that the other twin is likely to be gay as well. I believe it’s something like 85% for identical twins and 50% for fraternal twins. I can’t remember the exact numbers, but covered it in human genetics.
14 years ago at 6:30 pmhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRVpYWKkauw&feature=related
14 years ago at 6:33 pmCzar wasn’t trying to say that we should model our sexual behavior off the fucked up deviants that Bonobos are, he was merely pointing out the ignorance inherent in TrickleDown’s post.
14 years ago at 6:46 pmLifestyle, you can also have one twin with darker hair than the other, or one twin who’s slightly taller than the other, or any number of slight genetic differences.
Fratsman, there are an abundance of counterexamples to your point, both of good fathers who raised gay sons and shitty fathers whose son(s) turned out straight.
And Judge, I think it’s great that you believe in the Bible and it’s teachings. It’s a great book full of lots of helpful, relevant advice on how to live a moral and proper life. But it was also written several hundred years ago and includes shit that just shouldn’t be applied to our modern society. God may infallible, but the humans who wrote the Bible were not.
Think back on your entire life. Was there ever a point in your life in which you thought deeply about it and decided to be attracted to girls? The fact is humans can’t help which gender they’re attracted to. Most are attracted to the opposite, some are attracted to the same, some are attracted to both, and a handful are attracted to neither. The day I start caring enough about the sexual preferences of other guys to try to dictate who they can and cannot fuck will be the day I campaign against people buying beer I don’t like, having the wrong color hair, or not liking the same movies I do.
I read about 3 words of this…. Then decided it was just too long
14 years ago at 2:39 amFuck you
14 years ago at 7:57 pmThere is absolutely nothing genetic to give a predisposition to homosexuality.
How would one even inherit a gay gene?
Think on that one, and get back to me
14 years ago at 8:10 pmOn the X chromosome, like hemophilia?
14 years ago at 8:49 pmWhat the fuck is this, the Scopes Trial??
14 years ago at 9:04 pmIt isn’t possible to inherit a “gay gene”. There isn’t any “gay gene” to inherit. The whole argument for being predisposed to homosexuality is based off of the levels of certain hormones (specifically estrogen and testosterone) in an unborn child’s brain. But here’s the thing: Supposing homosexuality is a factor of genetics, then why hasn’t it been weeded out by evolution? It obviously doesn’t result in successful reproduction & survival, so by the laws of genetics homosexuality should have died off a long, long time ago. Now I believe in evolution, the divinely inspired kind. It doesn’t conflict with my theology. Likewise, I also believe that the Bible is divinely inspired. Given, there are things here and there that don’t necessarily apply to this place and time. The same could also be said of the United States Constitution. but the Bible is the Word of God, and when it says that homosexuality is plain wrong, that leaves me no choice but to believe that it’s not right and unnatural. Should we tolerate it? Yes. Should we love them anyway, as God’s children? Sure. Does that make their lifestyle right? No.
14 years ago at 9:09 pmAgain ??
14 years ago at 2:40 amand Fratsman, evolution does carry on bad traits when they are combined with traits that are significantly good. For example, evolution won’t filter out sickle cell disease because it provides a genetic resistance to malaria which is a more immediate threat to survival. So people running around in Africa or wherever the fuck it is that people usually get malaria will not get malaria as kids, not die young and live long enough to reproduce, but then die when they hit 30 from sickle cell
14 years ago at 9:22 pm^ Sure, dude. I doubt you have any sort of background in genetic training (not that I do), but I’ll give you that one. But how is that applicable when homosexual reproduction is literally not even possible? Genes can’t be passed on if they’re never given the chance.
14 years ago at 9:35 pmThis post is like reading an instruction manual for organized gaydom.
14 years ago at 12:03 amThis idea of “gay genes” and being “born gay” is bullshit liberal propaganda.
14 years ago at 1:10 amTGayMove
14 years ago at 1:48 amI believe the TFM intern is trolling.
14 years ago at 2:38 pm