What the Fuck is Frat Boy Conservatism?
On Friday Salon.com ran a piece from editor Joan Walsh entitled “Frat-boy conservatism in the Rose Garden.” The column reflects on the actions of Daily Caller reporter Neil Munro, specifically when he shamelessly interrupted President Obama’s speech about the executive order to stop the deportation of young children who were brought to the United States illegally by their parents. The article scolds Munro’s behavior and then goes on to reference several other instances of GOP disrespect for the Commander in Chief.
…it’s unbelievable how wingnuts treat this man with such unprecedented and bullying disrespect: from Rep. Joe Wilson screaming “You lie” during Obama’s 2009 speech to a joint session of Congress, to Speaker John Boehner denying him his choice of dates for another congressional address (for the first time in history) last fall, to Donald Trump’s persistent, humiliating demands for the president to show him his papers (with no rebuke from ally Mitt Romney).
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Conservatism has always been associated with deference to authority, but lately it’s only for authority they respect. The Romney campaign has been glorying in this new form of frat-boy conservatism, first sending campaign supporters to heckle Obama adviser David Axelrod during a press conference, and yesterday sending its bus to circle and disrupt an Obama event, honking its horn.
Now, you’ll find no argument from me on a lot of this. Yes there are a lot of reasons to be upset with Obama. There are a lot of reasons to dislike Obama. But I doubt I’m alone in believing that no matter who holds the office of president, you respect the office. I’m reminded of a quote from Band of Brothers in which Major Richard Winters informs his former incompetent and tyrannical commander Captain Herbert Sobel, who attempted to avoid saluting the recently promoted Winters, that “you salute the rank, not the man.” I’d like to think that readers of this website, the majority of whom are both fraternity men and self proclaimed patriots, subscribe to that notion. In short, Neil Munro is an attention seeking douche bag who needs to shut the fuck up.
I’m also not really a fan of Joe Wilson yelling “you lie” during Obama’s 2009 speech. Although I’ll admit that C-SPAN would provide infinitely more entertainment if Congress devolved into the British House of Commons, or better yet if congressmen started beating the shit out of each other with walking sticks again.
“Tune into C-SPAN this Friday night for FRIDAY NIGHT STICK FIGHTS! It’s time to fili-bust some ass!” (*cue exploding graphics*)
The rest of the grievances listed are just petty politics, which is something that is incredibly annoying and counterproductive, but also something for which Democrats are equally guilty. My problem isn’t with Walsh’s complaints, but with the title of her story, and her subsequent branding of these annoying, abrasive political tactics as “frat-boy conservatism.” She’s basically using “Frat-boy” as a euphemism for douche bag. But what’s interesting is that by branding it “frat-boy” she also tries to convey that ONLY conservatives are guilty of these sorts of actions, because to call upon an image of a frat boy is to call upon an image of white privilege, i.e. conservatives.
Even if she was using the term “frat boy” because many of these actions were loud and obnoxious, two traits that we are admittedly guilty of carrying every now and then, it still doesn’t quite fit. You want loud and obnoxious? Go find a protest with a drum circle. Go watch videos of the Occupy protests. In the end “frat boy” seems to fit her point so well because of what it calls to mind, white privilege, conservatives, etc. Loud and obnoxious might be an intended part of the image, but if it were the most important part surely she could have found a better way to make this point.
I really don’t even know where to begin on how much of a load of bullcrap that is. I could start with the fact that there are so many diverse members of fraternities (and sororities) that this image she is trying to create is basically a cheap stereotype. I could point out that there are plenty of liberal “frat boys” out there. I could create a laundry list of ways George W. Bush was similarly disrespected while in office. In fact feel free to do so in the comments, we can call it hipster liberalism, since all Democrats are TOTALLY filthy hipsters. But really it’s better to just keep it simple: Labeling this political behavior as “frat-boy conservatism” paints a one sided picture of what is actually a two sided and ever deepening problem in American politics. A problem so divisive that it might eventually HAVE to be settled with stick fights. Still, I’m most annoyed that calling these actions “frat-boy conservatism” does everything I listed all the while throwing a group of people who have no direct relation to this story (Greek Life) under the bus.
So please Joan Walsh, find a better way to get your point across. Just call a douche bag a douche bag, because Neil Munro certainly is a douche bag.
- [image via Salon.com]
Bacon is completely right in saying that everyone should respect the office of president regardless of who it is. I was saying it to those fucking hippies when GWB was in office, and even though President Obama hasn’t accomplished so much of getting himself laid on the reg, he needs to be respected as president. way to be bacon
13 years ago at 6:30 pm
13 years ago at 7:07 pmThis is what Joan Walsh looks like, gentlemen. Is anyone surprised that she’s so angry? Woof.
I wouldn’t hit that with a 2 x 4, let alone my dick.
13 years ago at 8:23 pmL_M_No_buttP for her
13 years ago at 9:05 pmThis is what pisses me off the most about politics is how soft everyone has become. Lincoln and his opponent used to stand on street corners and yell back and forth about how their opponent rapes women and kills children. That’s how things were back then and I’m pretty sure no one acted like Joan Walsh and cried about how offended they where. Shit like Neil Munro will happen in politics, always has and always will, especially when people are fed up and angry right now. Grow a pair. If you can’t handle it then go to France, we don’t want you here.
13 years ago at 7:23 pm^This. People who complain that politics is too personal/negative today have no understanding of history. Political discourse today is far, far, FAR more civil and restrained than it was in the past. Congressmen used to assault each other with canes on the House floor for fucks sake – today the biggest disruption you’ll see is a guy yelling “you lie” at the president, and people act like that’s the fucking end of democracy. We’re turning into goddamn pussies.
13 years ago at 7:59 pmExactly. All I saw from Joan was “whine whine whine”. Seriously, this is politics. If you can’t handle the shit that happens, do not be apart of it. But, no, we all must be “politically” correct when discussing politics. We have become softer as people. Everything must be according to one perspective. I know this is overused a lot, but this is kind of turning into Orwell’s 1984 where people abide by one custom instead of thinking and fending for themselves.
13 years ago at 9:36 pm“Conservatism has always been associated with deference to authority, but lately it’s only for authority they respect.”
Well, then it’s not called Conservatism anymore, now is it? And it is no longer called “Frat-Boy Conservatism” is it? You can not change the definition of Conservatism, especially in the same sentence. You know what this is called? Politics.
Poor journalism, which shows an extreme biased opinion.
13 years ago at 9:40 pmLaurence Keitt, brandishing a pistol and saying “Let them be” FaF
13 years ago at 9:46 pmthis is way too legitimate of an article to be posted on this website. And yes all Dems are hipsters.
13 years ago at 5:39 amAndrew Jackson was the original founder of Fratboy Conservatism
13 years ago at 11:22 am“fili-bust some ass.” Classic.
13 years ago at 1:17 pmIdeally, comments should be like the government: limited in size
13 years ago at 10:16 pmShame on Obama for interrupting the man during his question
13 years ago at 9:40 am