I don’t care how good your family and fraternity connections are, a degree from any of the schools in Alabama is going to hold you back more than it helps you in most desirable career fields(i.e. politics, finance, law; most likely law or politics given that you mention D.C.)
I certainly didn’t attend any schools in Alabama but your opinion is wrong – plain and simple. If you attended any major university, have decent grades, and can properly formulate a sentence then you can succeed in any industry. Connections and good interviewing skills trump GPA and school attended. At least in finance.
^Your name rings true. In finance(real finance, i.e. IB, S&T, Private Equity, Hedge Funds, Venture capital, not some BS financial advisor/wealth management gig) someone with a degree from Alabama, Auburn, or any other school in the state is going to have a very, very difficult time even getting interviews. They have to fight kids from Ivy League schools, Duke, Rice, Emory, Notre Dame, etc for these highly coveted jobs. Connections that can get you in the door at reputable firms, are very rare at schools like Alabama and Auburn that are certainly not known for their alumni network or on campus recruiting. And let’s say, hypothetically of course, that you do get a front office job(not some Ops or Marketing BS) at a solid firm, the odds of you advancing to partner/managing director level one day are slim to none. How many Morgan Stanley managing directors hold degrees from Alabama or Auburn? I would be willing to wager that the answer is 0.
Alabama and Auburn are both in the top 50 public Universities in the nation, and in the top 100 Universities in the US. Please explain to me how that holds someone back? Also Alabama’s law school is outstanding, and it is super hard to get into Auburn’s vet school. Do some research you stupid Yankee.
Its hardly even worth responding to you idiots, but I will anyway. I challenge anyone at Auburn or Alabama to go online and apply for an Analyst position at Goldman Sachs, or any other Bulge Bracket bank for that matter. See if you get a call back, lol
To the guy above me, what you’re saying is correct but unfortunately you’ve totally changed the argument. Are Alabama undergrads getting hired at Alabama get hired at Goldman? Probably not. Unless you went Ivy MBA or MSF you probably aren’t hearing back from Goldman.
Does this mean their degrees are worthless? Hell no. They’ll just have to go work at a smaller boutique firm before breaking into Goldman. I’ve never even stepped foot in the state of Alabama so you know my opinion is unbiased.
Here’s what I do know for sure – your pompous dumbass certainly won’t be working at Goldman either.
I have not totally changed the argument, try to keep up. I began by more or less pointing out that going to school in Alabama is nothing to be bragging about. Then “idiot” erroneously asserted that in finance a degree from a school in Alabama would cut it. I then went on to point out that he is sadly mistaken. So, I in fact was not the one who changed the subject. Nice try, though.
One of my fraternity brothers has actually worked for Morgan Stanley for the past year….he also graduated from a state school..in ALABAMA….you yankees are pathetic
You lived in California (which is NF). You went to school in New York (which is NF). So at this point you attended Alabama – great. Now you have a job. Awesome. And why is this a TFM?
If you the right people and talked to the right people you would know that in order to get to Capitol Hill, you need to establish yourself elsewhere. Unless you want to be a GDI Legislative assistant.
first off to the other comment, Alabama has good schools, not sure why you would say that. And for this TFM, how is going to a boarding school cool? I went to public school and still go into a private school (Samford in Alabama) and joined a fraternity. This post is useless, also why were you telling a GDI all of this?
I have not totally changed the argument, try to keep up. I began by more or less pointing out that going to school in Alabama is nothing to be bragging about. Then “idiot” erroneously asserted that in finance a degree from a school in Alabama would cut it. I then went on to point out that he is sadly mistaken. So, I in fact was not the one who changed the subject. Nice try, though.
Funny how two of my fraternity brothers from the University of Alabama work on Wall Street right now. Both with finance degrees. I may end up working in New York for Ernst and Young with an accounting degree. Alabama has a top 20 accounting and finance program and the masters of accountancy programs is one of the top in the country. Doesn’t have a good recruiting base. I think not. One of my graduate school classes had Gregory Jonas who is the managing director for Morgan Stanley come speak to us. In his speech he continually reiterated how University of Alabama business graduates were some of the most sought after of any public university in the country. Pompous northern morons who think you are FaF.
I don’t care how good your family and fraternity connections are, a degree from any of the schools in Alabama is going to hold you back more than it helps you in most desirable career fields(i.e. politics, finance, law; most likely law or politics given that you mention D.C.)
14 years ago at 2:46 pmI certainly didn’t attend any schools in Alabama but your opinion is wrong – plain and simple. If you attended any major university, have decent grades, and can properly formulate a sentence then you can succeed in any industry. Connections and good interviewing skills trump GPA and school attended. At least in finance.
14 years ago at 3:01 pm^Your name rings true. In finance(real finance, i.e. IB, S&T, Private Equity, Hedge Funds, Venture capital, not some BS financial advisor/wealth management gig) someone with a degree from Alabama, Auburn, or any other school in the state is going to have a very, very difficult time even getting interviews. They have to fight kids from Ivy League schools, Duke, Rice, Emory, Notre Dame, etc for these highly coveted jobs. Connections that can get you in the door at reputable firms, are very rare at schools like Alabama and Auburn that are certainly not known for their alumni network or on campus recruiting. And let’s say, hypothetically of course, that you do get a front office job(not some Ops or Marketing BS) at a solid firm, the odds of you advancing to partner/managing director level one day are slim to none. How many Morgan Stanley managing directors hold degrees from Alabama or Auburn? I would be willing to wager that the answer is 0.
14 years ago at 5:03 pmAlabama and Auburn are both in the top 50 public Universities in the nation, and in the top 100 Universities in the US. Please explain to me how that holds someone back? Also Alabama’s law school is outstanding, and it is super hard to get into Auburn’s vet school. Do some research you stupid Yankee.
14 years ago at 6:07 pmIts hardly even worth responding to you idiots, but I will anyway. I challenge anyone at Auburn or Alabama to go online and apply for an Analyst position at Goldman Sachs, or any other Bulge Bracket bank for that matter. See if you get a call back, lol
14 years ago at 6:23 pmTo the guy above me, what you’re saying is correct but unfortunately you’ve totally changed the argument. Are Alabama undergrads getting hired at Alabama get hired at Goldman? Probably not. Unless you went Ivy MBA or MSF you probably aren’t hearing back from Goldman.
Does this mean their degrees are worthless? Hell no. They’ll just have to go work at a smaller boutique firm before breaking into Goldman. I’ve never even stepped foot in the state of Alabama so you know my opinion is unbiased.
Here’s what I do know for sure – your pompous dumbass certainly won’t be working at Goldman either.
14 years ago at 8:03 pmI have not totally changed the argument, try to keep up. I began by more or less pointing out that going to school in Alabama is nothing to be bragging about. Then “idiot” erroneously asserted that in finance a degree from a school in Alabama would cut it. I then went on to point out that he is sadly mistaken. So, I in fact was not the one who changed the subject. Nice try, though.
14 years ago at 10:08 pmYou’re a dumbass if you think you are going to get a job at Morgan Stanley or Goldman Sachs by applying online…stupid fucking geed.
14 years ago at 1:05 pmOne of my fraternity brothers has actually worked for Morgan Stanley for the past year….he also graduated from a state school..in ALABAMA….you yankees are pathetic
14 years ago at 1:12 pmSo lets recap…
You lived in California (which is NF). You went to school in New York (which is NF). So at this point you attended Alabama – great. Now you have a job. Awesome. And why is this a TFM?
14 years ago at 2:56 pm^This
14 years ago at 9:54 pmMore like the Geed circle of life…
14 years ago at 2:57 pmExactly
14 years ago at 8:22 pmIf you the right people and talked to the right people you would know that in order to get to Capitol Hill, you need to establish yourself elsewhere. Unless you want to be a GDI Legislative assistant.
14 years ago at 5:24 pmyou went to boarding school and all you could get into was a college in alabama? that’s pretty sad
14 years ago at 7:47 pmfirst off to the other comment, Alabama has good schools, not sure why you would say that. And for this TFM, how is going to a boarding school cool? I went to public school and still go into a private school (Samford in Alabama) and joined a fraternity. This post is useless, also why were you telling a GDI all of this?
14 years ago at 8:00 pmPublic School NF
14 years ago at 8:25 pmPublic school NF. Samford NF. You pretty much fucked up at life.
14 years ago at 12:23 pmBeing a “dixiecrat.” NF
14 years ago at 3:17 pmSamford = NF
14 years ago at 10:31 pmI have not totally changed the argument, try to keep up. I began by more or less pointing out that going to school in Alabama is nothing to be bragging about. Then “idiot” erroneously asserted that in finance a degree from a school in Alabama would cut it. I then went on to point out that he is sadly mistaken. So, I in fact was not the one who changed the subject. Nice try, though.
14 years ago at 8:36 pmshut the hell up
14 years ago at 9:53 pmmeant to put this below “stupid”‘s comment
14 years ago at 10:07 pmNot knowing how to operate the site despite your pompous attitude. NF.
14 years ago at 10:37 pmcalifornia = NF. Anonymous = NF. Tennessee = FaF
14 years ago at 9:56 pmGrew up in the South. Went to private school in the South. Went to college in the South. Run my dad’s business, you guessed it, in the South.
14 years ago at 9:54 pmis there anyway else to do it?
14 years ago at 10:54 pmNo better way than in the South!
14 years ago at 11:11 amFunny how two of my fraternity brothers from the University of Alabama work on Wall Street right now. Both with finance degrees. I may end up working in New York for Ernst and Young with an accounting degree. Alabama has a top 20 accounting and finance program and the masters of accountancy programs is one of the top in the country. Doesn’t have a good recruiting base. I think not. One of my graduate school classes had Gregory Jonas who is the managing director for Morgan Stanley come speak to us. In his speech he continually reiterated how University of Alabama business graduates were some of the most sought after of any public university in the country. Pompous northern morons who think you are FaF.
14 years ago at 9:20 pm