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Mailbag: A College Senior Thinks That College Freshman Who’s Voting For Trump Is An Idiot

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Earlier today, I posted a college freshman’s reasoning for why he is voting for Trump. A college senior, who is a poli sci major, read this frosh’s take and was not pleased.

Here is what he sent me in response, in its entirety.

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As a college senior preparing to write my political science thesis, I thought I would take a second to dismantle the college freshman’s reasoning for supporting trump. Just to clarify, I am not an avid Hillary supporter. She is one of the most secretive, scheming, power hungry candidates we have ever seen, and based on her public approval ratings, the country realizes this. Her carelessness has caused serious breaches of confidentiality and her predisposition for choosing self-preservation over public good is something that every American should be seriously worried about. However, while I may not be #WithHer, I am an avid supporter of facts and the truth. What was written by this freshman, ignoring the grammatical and stylistic errors, was riddled with falsities that have been disseminated by the Trump campaign and internalized by his supporters. If we ever want to have a productive conversation on ideological differences in governance philosophy, the truth must prevail. Therefore, I wanted to take the time to dismantle this argument statement-by-statement to hopefully provide some clarity in an election that has been anything but transparent.

Obama’s administration literally represents the establishment and Hillary has stated more than 100 times that she supports all of Obama’s decisions and will basically do everything exactly how he did.

It seems to me that the author has greatly confused “the establishment” with “the administration”. “The establishment” is not partisan nor does it solely reside in the Presidential administration, rather it is meant to represent the people who have made a life-long career in sectors that wield power and influence. The establishment doesn’t necessarily refer to just people in the political arena, it’s a title that is ascribed to business leaders, media giants, and anyone who has a vested interest in maintain the traditional networks of power. While President Obama is no doubt part of the establishment, as is Clinton, this does not mean that they solely represent the American power establishment.

Trump’s administration directly opposes the Obama administration and is therefore anti establishment. Therefore if you don’t agree with Obama obviously your only choice is to vote for Trump.

Reince Prebius opposes the Obama administration. Paul Ryan opposes the Obama administration. Mitch McConnell opposes the Obama Administration. The Bush Family opposes the Obama administration. The Koch Brothers oppose the Obama administration. All of these leaders are in deep opposition of the Obama administration, yet they are all apart of the establishment. Just because you oppose the current administration does not make you anti-establishment. Trump is running an anti-establishment campaign, but he is also deeply reliant on establishment support, contrary to what he preaches. By aligning himself with the GOP and utilizing their vast networks of grassroots organizing and party funds, he has vindicated the self-appointed title of anti-establishment. Further, we don’t exist in a binary world of one or the other. Gary Johnson and Evan Macmullin are both candidates who oppose the policies of the Obama administration; Trump is not the only choice.

Under the Obama administration racial tensions and rioting has steadily increased to levels near that of the 1960s where there have been mass shootings and violent race riots nationwide, under the clinton administration race relations would continue to increase it is 2016 why on earth is racial conflict even a thing?

I have to admit that this statement isn’t necessarily false. We have seen a rise in outwardly public racial tension since Obama took office. However, this answer is incredibly one-dimensional. Political science largely concerns itself with understanding the root of an issue rather than the surface level conflict that we tend to see. Yes, racial tensions have seemed to boil to the surface during the tenure of President Obama, but is the cause of his administration or an effect? From what I have seen, these issues arose as a response to his administration, not due to his administration. While I am not here to defend anyone’s record, I think that this is an important thing to note.

Who the hell wants to vote for a president who causes conflict?

Using this as an argument for a Trump Presidency is overtly contradictive to the previous reasoning employed. Not only is an anti-establishment campaign inherently conflicting, but Trump has deliberately and consciously caused and encouraged conflict as a tactic to gain populist support. It is your right to support Trump as a candidate, but if you don’t want to vote for a candidate because they will cause conflict, you are voting for the wrong candidate.

A common criticism of Trump is the fact that he makes wild comments which is true, but at the sametime everyone makes those kinds of comments but rather than say them in public they keep them to themselves.

The argument that “everyone makes these kind of comments in private” is not grounded rationale for supporting a candidate. On the surface, it may seem like something that is a positive, but when you actually start to think about the implications of someone who has no filter, it becomes less and less appealing. Disregarding the need for a president to maintain decorum and self-restraint when engaging in diplomatic meetings or policy debates, no person in the history of humanity would enjoy being in the presence of someone who has no filter. Part of being a productive member of society is knowing when to keep thoughts to yourself and knowing when to speak your mind. Trump has demonstrated time after time that he does not understand this basic part of human interaction, which in turn has caused him to be a wildly polarizing figure. Imagine you were sitting around the dinner table at Thanksgiving and your Aunt voiced every thought that came to mind. By the end of the dinner, she would be completely alienated from everyone else and the tension would be so unbearable that your family dynamic would never be the same. Apply that same principle to the office of the presidency, and it is easy to see why this is a flaw rather than a positive.

Trump is a very confident man who does not hold his feelings back which is a strong quality of an honest person. Trump is clearly a very honest person he always expresses his opinion the way he truly feels rather than is very untruthful opponent Hillary who has lied countless times.

False. Categorically and unequivocally false. Confidence and outspokenness in no way is congruent with honesty. In fact, Politifact, a non-partisan Pulitzer Prize winning fact-checking organization has proven that 69% of what Trump has said has been anywhere from “mostly false” to “pants on fire”, compared to Hillary Clinton, who has a 24% lie rating under the same evaluation standards. I understand that we have a propensity to believe something that is said with confidence, especially when we are angry or feel disenfranchised, but regarding blatant lies as truths is incredibly dangerous to public discourse and the democratic process. Further, Trump deals more in ‘feelings’ than in truth. WE have made the grave mistake of substituting feelings for facts, and the outcome of the presidential election may hinge on this disturbing falsity.
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Shots fired! Regardless of your allegiance, it’s at least nice to see political discourse coming about from our generation.

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  1. Theta_Theta

    Holy shit someone on this website that can write well using the English language I’d say hire him but you guys don’t make good decisions anymore so I won’t bother

    8 years ago at 5:56 pm
  2. BabyDickClit

    I’m voting for Trump because I want Mr. Garrison to become the president on South Park. And, you know, because Hillary is a crook.

    8 years ago at 6:01 pm
  3. SigmaPhilthy

    My Aunt does speak everything that comes to her mind and particularly at the Thanksgiving table. Mr. Senior either has no Aunts or has become so condescending, as a result of his PolySci, liberal arts education, that his family lies to him about where they host Thanksgiving dinner in hopes that they won’t have to put up with his apoplectic diatribes.

    8 years ago at 6:03 pm
      1. BobMotherFuckingBarker

        I fucking hate hilary, and I didn’t vote for her, that doesn’t change the fact that Trump is an objectively worse candidate

        8 years ago at 6:40 pm
      2. BobMotherFuckingBarker

        I mean if you have a brain it’s not hard to figure out. Trump’s whole model is how successful he is as a businessman, when in reality he has loads of failed business ventures. The guy has zero political experience. He says something, then says he never said that, and doesn’t realize that people/the internet remembers shit, not to mention he was a democrat for pretty much his entire career leading up to this election, he flip flops just as much as hilary. The guy has no policy, he just says extremely broad shit with no substance. If you ask him how he’s gonna make Mexico pay for the wall, all he says is “believe me”. Bill o’Reily called him out on this for fuck sake. One of the few things I agree with Trump on is that he’s against the TPP, but even then it’s tough to believe him since he outsources his own jobs. Perhaps worst of all he asked three separate times in a closed door foreign policy meeting why we can’t just nuke people whenever we want. There’s another quote from him where he says he won’t take nuking Europe off the table. The guy who doesn’t understand the gravity of nuclear war is the one you want to hand the keys to the end of the human race. I’m not the only one terrified of the thought of Trump with nukes either, multiple people who worked at the silos, and would have been the ones to actually launch the nukes at the president’s order have said we can’t have Trump in office. Like I said I fucking hate Hilary, she’s at Richard Nixon Levels of corruption, perhaps worse, the FBI director described her as extremely careless in regards to handling classified information, she’s hawkish on foreign policy and in the pocket of Wall Street, but at the end of the day I’d rather have a corrupt politician than a fucking circus monkey leading the free world.

        8 years ago at 7:01 pm
      3. Frat Nixon

        I told Agnew to erase the tapes but that fuckwit is as useless as bicycle pedals on a wheelchair.

        8 years ago at 7:32 am
      4. JakeFromState

        They both are complete dog shit and anyone who says otherwise can fuck their own face. Trump is an egomaniac who is nowhere near qualified to be Commander and Chief, and Hillary is a lying cunt who cost American soldiers their lives.

        8 years ago at 7:03 pm
      5. Bush Light

        You obviously can’t hire a politician to fix the country either because you can clearly see where we are and where we’re headed after electing career politicians.

        8 years ago at 8:05 am
  4. The_Names_Doug_Dimmadome

    I love how he starts with “As a college senior preparing to write my political science thesis…” as if that’s a fucking credential for anything.

    8 years ago at 6:07 pm
    1. NarDog

      I’d take it as a credential for being better informed than the kid who wrote the first email

      8 years ago at 6:56 pm
      1. NativeFloridaCracker

        Kid goes to school to be a political drone = great advice. Log off the Internet you fucking sheep.

        8 years ago at 8:48 pm
      2. 21st Century Goose

        Anyone that disagrees with your thinking is a sheep. Way to be a critical thinker, chief.

        8 years ago at 7:36 am
      3. NativeFloridaCracker

        Assuming the freshman is informed is equivalent to assuming I’m not open to anothers beliefs, Sport.

        8 years ago at 2:21 pm
    2. Canada

      I’d take that over someone who probably sounds like “as a college student now i take political science this semester and think i did really well on My First Midtern 🙂 yesterdey and i think that…”

      8 years ago at 11:44 am
  5. meatwagon34

    why was the freshman’s argument for trump even posted? it’s awful reasoning along with painfully hard to read grammar.

    8 years ago at 6:08 pm
  6. MuscleyArms

    I’d rather hear some criticism on why he choose to major in Political Science, because come graduation day, if he doesn’t have anyone to help him get into law school he’ll be doing nothing but surfing Craigslist for serving jobs.

    8 years ago at 6:10 pm
  7. Frat and drunk

    Wow isn’t it amazing how after 3 years of college everyone seems too know everything about every single matter. Yeah hop off prick you’ve been drinking the kool aid. Trump would lead us to more wars? Really Hillary has mentioned numerous times intervention in Syria, meanwhile Trumps has laid out policies of staying the fuck out. A Trump presidency beats having to deal with Monica Lewensiky’s ex boyfriends wife

    8 years ago at 6:42 pm
  8. Coolnamewastaken

    Wow, Politifact says Hillary only lies 24% of the time? How can I not trust an unbiased resource like that?

    8 years ago at 6:47 pm
    1. BloodyBunghole

      24% is actually incredibly high… Here’s Hillary.
      1.) I ate oatmeal for breakfast,
      2.) I’m wearing blue shoes,
      3.) Trump is fat,
      4.) I didn’t have sex with that woman…

      See… That’s 25% right there, without even trying.

      It’s just Trump is more dedicated to lying,
      1.) I’m a billionaire, everyone says so,
      2.) I’m orange,
      3.) I’m not a Russian Puppet.

      And there’s 67% lies… Trump actually does slightly better.

      8 years ago at 8:35 am
  9. Bmichaels

    4 consecutive articles ripping the GOP candidate the day before the election? TFM is no better than buzzfeed.

    8 years ago at 7:35 pm
      1. Bmichaels

        So that means a website with a conservative base should use the last hours to bash him instead of the clearly much worse Democrat?

        8 years ago at 7:41 pm
      2. TaylorSwiftsPubeGroomer

        Did you take a poll to conclude that this website has a conservative base? Or are you just throwing shit out there with no basis? Hey, that’s kinda what Trump does.

        8 years ago at 9:39 am
      1. ClicheCatchphrase

        How is it bashing? Just because it’s not pandering to you means it’s bashing?

        8 years ago at 9:03 am