Rebutting The Columnist Who Called Out USC Fraternities For “Perpetuating Rape Culture”

Rebutting The Columnist Who Calls Out USC Fraternities For Perpetuating  Rape Culture

We hear it every day…

“Fraternities are bad!”
“Frat guys rape more often than non-frat guys!”
“Let’s ban fraternities!”

This shit is tiring for members of the Greek community, because, much to the general public’s dismay, we shun acts of sexual deviancy, rape, and assault just like any upstanding member of society with a half-functioning moral compass would. Alas, the narrative rolls on.

Recently, one columnist at the University of Southern California wrote an extensive report on sexual assault at the school. In his report, titled “The Cost Of Sexual Assault,” he aims to shed light on the epidemic of sexual assaults on USC’s campus, explain that the school system poorly handles cases that arise, and, more importantly, he calls out Greek life for perpetuating the so-called “rape culture” on campus via “high costs” and “creepiness.”

In the column, the author uses a graph that shows the correlation of “creepiness” to a fraternity’s status. “Creepiness” is apparently a calculable statistic, based on “sexually aggressive experiences.” You can view that graph here. In the plot graphs, the X-axis of the left graph is the status of a fraternity (the lower the status, the more they pay for parties, and likely the higher tier they are), while the Y-axis is the “creepiness” frequency. The X-axis for the graph on the right is the total number of fraternity hookups versus the same Y-axis as before.

Assuming that fraternity status is influenced at least partly by the amount of financial resources funneled into parties, the chart on the left shows that higher status fraternities, and thus, those who spent more on parties, had a higher reported-creepiness frequency. Add in the chart on the right, and the logical result is that despite having a higher creepiness frequency, the top (and more creepy) frats with the most expensive parties also had more collective hookups.

A sociology professor at the University of Michigan also went on to say this:

“Fraternities have a domination of the party resources, which basically contributes to sexual assault.”

Pretty drastic leap there. I don’t even know how this professor came to this conclusion that having more party resources contributes to sexual assault. I missed the scientific study that proved that the more “party resources” you have, the more you’re going to be assaulting girls sexually. Seems like this professor just jumped from point A to point Q with no proof given on how they got there.

The most important stat I’d like to point out is the fact that he said a 2014 University of Oregon study showed sorority girls are two times more likely to face sexual assault than girls who are not in sororities. He was using this stat to back up a 2008 study done at USC showing that Greeks were more likely to partake in sexual assault. The numbers in that study were also percentage-based. You’ll see this strategy used by anti-Greek people a lot, but when you get down to the raw numbers, you’ll find that they are a bit skewed — some might even call them biased. They use these percentage-based numbers because they’re trying to scare people. However, 100 percent of one is still just one, and one-percent of 10,000 is still 100.

For example:

The 2014 study at the University of Oregon found that 38 percent of sorority girls are likely to experience rape or some sort of sexual assault. That seems high, right? I mean, if I was a sorority girl, that would be extremely alarming to me. On the flip side, the study found that only 15.3 percent of girls who weren’t in a sorority would experience rape or some kind of sexual assault.

Now, let’s break down these numbers. Since I don’t have the 2014 enrollment numbers from the University of Oregon, we’ll assume that the same percentage of sexual assault experiences are happening at Oregon for 2015, and we’ll use the 2015 enrollment numbers.

The total enrollment for the University of Oregon in 2015 is 24,181. Of those enrolled, 20,569 are undergraduates. To be conservative, I will throw out the graduate students and assume that they are not in Greek life. There are a total of 12,638 female students on campus, both graduate and undergraduate. Graduate students account for roughly 15 percent of the total attendance, while females account for 52.3 percent of total attendance. So it’s relatively safe to assume that there are roughly 10,758 female undergraduates (20,569 x 52.3%).

The total number of students who are in Greek life at Oregon is 3,334. According to Niche.com, 14 percent of undergrad females are in sororities at Oregon. That would mean that there are about 1,506 undergrad females in sororities (10,758 x 14%). My math brings me to 9,252 undergraduate girls who are not in a sorority (10,758-1,506).

Now, let’s take the 38 percent of sorority girls who are likely to experience rape, and you’ll find that the total number is 572 girls. On the opposite end of the spectrum, you have 1,416 girls who are not in Greek life who will experience sexual assault. THE NUMBER OF GIRLS WHO AREN’T IN GREEK LIFE WHO WILL EXPERIENCE SEXUAL ASSAULT IS ALMOST EQUAL TO THE TOTAL NUMBER OF GIRLS IN GREEK LIFE.

I’m not ignorant. Obviously sexual assaults do take place at fraternity houses, just as they take place in any number of non-organizational houses, but when you’re throwing out skewed stats like “sorority girls are two times more likely to be raped than non-sorority girls” without including all of the factors that contribute to the allegedly higher percentage of sexual assaults, you’re going to scare a lot of people away from joining sororities and fraternities that would’ve otherwise done so, in my opinion, unnecessarily. In reality, the raw numbers show that more girls are sexually assaulted outside of Greek life than the total number of girls in Greek life (at least at Oregon). Again, those are just the raw numbers based on the math above.

So how would the guy that wrote this accusatory column go about changing the whole “home turf advantage for fraternities” narrative? He suggests lobbying for sororities to get an alcohol insurance policy so that the girls can start throwing parties at their own houses. Good luck getting Panhellenic on board with that, chief.

The second idea that he presents is for all fraternities to hold parties at public venues rather than their private houses. This happens all over the country already, and let me tell you, it is damn expensive to have to rent out a bar or venue. If you have a wet house, you have an advantage in recruiting because you have a place where you can get drunk knowing that you can pass out on the couch if need be. So in a sense, his plan already happen. So now what?

Well, his third idea would be to just keep telling the parents more and more info on all the bad things that fraternities do so they’ll stop paying for dues and effectively crumple the Greek system. Listen, when my future kid gets to college, he will be an adult. At that point in his life, he will be free and able to make his own decisions without needing parental approval when it comes to these types of things, because that’s how I’ll have raised him.

We all get the point that the author is trying to make. Sure, there are bad apples in the Greek system just like there are bad apples in society as a whole. That doesn’t mean you shut the whole fucking thing down. You get rid of the bad apples, better the system, and move on. The overall goal of columns like this to disrupt the growth or continuation of Greek life by damning the entire system is skipping way too many steps. Surely there are more productive ways to better fraternities and sororities than damaging their reputations by throwing out skewed stats in an effort to lesson their membership. Let’s find some other solutions that are actually realistic, like better educating sororities, and fraternities, on the dangers of sexual assault, rather than the idealistic but hardly realistic solutions presented by the columnist in question.

[via “The Cost Of Sexual Assault”]

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  1. Frank_Underwood

    This is absolutely ridiculous. I can’t believe they can accuse a entire organization to such a thing as the contribution to rape based on “creepiness”. Just ridiculous.

    10 years ago at 9:06 am
    1. maroonandgold

      Yea, how did that get published? I know California is a cesspool of leftist ideology, but has USC seriously sunk this low?

      10 years ago at 9:12 am
      1. Bid Notice

        You know the fucked up thing? USC is even considered a conservative school in California.

        10 years ago at 10:06 am
      2. cleavage

        Its gotten alot less conservative since they stopped admitting people based off of money and if they had family members who were alumni and admitted based on grades. LMU has become the premier “Im really stupid good thing I’m rich” school in the LA area now.

        10 years ago at 12:10 pm
    2. ScoochMcGooch

      And high costs. Dues cause rape. But what confuses me is that I paid my dues, but owe $40k to the university. His directionality is backward. We’ve been getting raped.

      10 years ago at 10:01 am
    3. Fratasaurus

      And let’s not forget that geeds are almost 100x creepier than most fraternity men and they don’t pay for anything besides their game fly subscription.

      10 years ago at 11:11 am
  2. maroonandgold

    I feel like most sorority members would be way more creeped out by a random GDI than a guy wearing Fraternity letters.

    10 years ago at 9:09 am
  3. CongenialAF

    If any of these people would ever take a stats class, they would learn this neat little concept that “correlation does not mean causation”, even in fairytale land with made up measured variables such as “creepiness”.

    10 years ago at 9:12 am
    1. Kurt

      Good statistics, deductive reasoning, and other logical arguments have become almost nonexistant in rhetoric, especially that of universities, nowadays. I actually read a “scholarly” article, while doing research for an english paper, that claimed math and statistics are oppressive, and that they have no place in rhetoric because “their only credibility is that they use logic”.

      Cultural Marxism at its finest.

      10 years ago at 9:53 am
    2. Otis_Allan_Fratbrook

      “Likelihood to encounter sexual assault” and “likelihood to be raped” are two completely different statistics. If a girl’s friend is assaulted, she would consider herself part of the first group but not the second. So comparing the two is completely fucking meaningless

      10 years ago at 10:05 am
    3. Bucknuts

      To your same point, and correlation/causation aside, liberals draw up their bullshit conclusions based on strung out assumptions and unsubstantiated evidence. Sorority girls may be twice as likely to experience sexual assault, so left wingers would immediately think sororities hang out with fraternities so fraternities are the ones perpetuating this increased percentage of assault. Though the real story might actually be that only 45% of the undergraduate population goes out at least once a week, whereas 90% sorority members fall in that category. The other statistic they would conveniently ignore is the location of the assaults. Perhaps sorority girls spend their time 50/50 between fraternity houses and regular bars. I’d wager that 90% of those assaults would be at the latter venues.

      10 years ago at 10:21 am
  4. bltblt

    A. What the fuck kind of a unit is “creepiness”?
    B. Learn to read a damn graph. One is a negative correlation, and the other is positive. They are quite literally saying opposite things.

    10 years ago at 9:12 am
    1. JustLetItHappen

      Great point but not only are they misinterpreting the graphs they’re also completely ignoring the outliers. Any person who’s taken stat 101 can see that there is a major outlier on both graphs that are probably skewing their so called “trends” quite a bit. They don’t give us the actual numbers of the dot points so there is no way to check. But it still calls the entire basis of their argument into question.

      10 years ago at 12:23 pm
  5. SlipperyPete

    Well written and you have some solid arguments, but you’re a little off on your argument against using percentages. There’s nothing logically or statistically wrong with the way they used percentages, they used them to show a rate, not absolute values. And, in this case, sexual assault rates were in fact higher in sorority girls. We can’t just ignore statistics that we don’t like, leave that to them.

    10 years ago at 9:21 am
    1. Sir Fratinald

      Well let’s think about this realistically, if we’re talking about rape that happens at parties and not just some random creep off the streets. So we all know that there is a overwhelming percentage of nongreek girls who don’t party at all for whatever reason, and they’re just thrown into the mix here anyways. I would love to see the percent of nongreek girls that get raped who also say they party a decent amount, and I’m sure that it would be just as high if not higher than the sorority girl percentage

      10 years ago at 9:32 am
      1. SlipperyPete

        I had the exact same thought, the statistic might not be in our favor and we might have reasonable explanations as to why, but we still can’t just ignore it.

        10 years ago at 9:36 am
      2. SlipperyPete

        Also it doesn’t provide statistics for who was assaulting the girls. And this might sound fucked up but it’s a serious consideration, maybe sorority girls get targeted more because they’re collectively better looking than their non-Greek counterparts. Just because there’s a correlation between sexual assault and Greek involvement doesn’t mean being in a sorority is the cause. Either way fuck this guy for not understanding statistics.

        10 years ago at 10:57 am
      3. Beecher1843

        Unfortunately “partier” and “non-partier” is at the very least slightly more difficult to measure than greek or non greek. However you are likely spot on. No knock to how people live their lives, but you are a lot more likely to have something happen to you if your Saturday nights consist involve going out to fraternity parties, house parties, or bars than if you stay in your dorm, order some Jimmy Johns, amd watch a Rachel McAdams movie,

        10 years ago at 11:01 am
      4. mosthonorableactive

        ^A very important consideration. Sorority girls are more likely to go out into the real world on the weekends, while there are probably a substantial number of GDIs who don’t go out, or whose “parties” consist of 15 people they already know drinking PBR. Those people are obviously way less likely to encounter assault

        Plus as I pointed out with the ADPi thing earlier this week, these girls are legally adults and can make their own decisions. It’s ridiculously sexist to say that they’re too dumb or oppressed by the patriarchy to know better than to hang out with us and that they need to be protected from their own poor decisions, yet that’s exactly the argument these people make

        10 years ago at 11:30 am
  6. Sir Fratinald

    Yah what just happened was called a Simpson’s Paradox (with the rape percentage)

    10 years ago at 9:21 am
      1. Sir Fratinald

        Don’t have to re-read anything mainly because I learned it in class, and I know I’m right

        10 years ago at 9:39 am
      2. SlipperyPete

        I guess I can always respect overconfidence. But Simpson’s paradox is more about relationships between rates and sub rates. Here it was just rates and absolute values, the stories they told didn’t contradict one another. Consider yourself learned.

        10 years ago at 10:48 am
  7. Tuco_1855

    You know people sound like broken records when you never hear anyone use “perpetuate” unless they’re saying “perpetuate rape.” This USC guy’s article is just a regurgitation of hundreds of the exact same article.

    10 years ago at 9:22 am
    1. Frabst

      Liberals love living in an echo chamber for their moronic a thoughts. I know it’s ironic posting this on a fraternity website but it’s 100% true.

      10 years ago at 9:35 am
  8. Richard Highman

    The world is gonna be a scary place for the white male to live by the time we’re even as old as our dads

    10 years ago at 9:22 am
    1. maroonandgold

      One can only hope that Darwinism holds, and the weak pussies flounder in the race for reproduction.

      10 years ago at 9:32 am
  9. Alphamale Jackhammer

    I wonder if these morons saying fraternity men are more likely to commit sexual assault have done any critical thinking. Could it be that instead of a fraternity man is 3 times more likely to assault, that the girls fraternity men associate with (sorority women) are more likely to report it. Cause maybe, I don’t know, they have a huge support network of sister s that would encourage them to do so.

    10 years ago at 9:40 am