Trump: Waterboarding Is Weak Sauce, It’s Time To Step Up Our Torture Game
The Don dropped yet another piping hot take on America when he recently said that we should quit pussy-footing around with that candy-ass water-boarding bullshit and really lay into the terrorists with our torture methods. When soft politicians told him that he would be “breaking the rules set forth by the Geneva Convention” or “stooping to the terrorists’ level,” Trump conceded that he wouldn’t force generals to break any laws.
Then, on Sunday, Trump concluded that he would fight to get those laws changed to include laxer torture restrictions.
From Military.com:
Donald Trump said Sunday that he favored changing U.S. military and international laws against torture and waterboarding that ISIS ignores.
“I would like to strengthen the laws so that we can better compete” with the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria, Trump said in an interview that aired Sunday on CBS TV’s “Face the Nation.”
Citing ISIS’ beheadings of U.S. prisoners and other brutal tactics, Trump said, “We have to play the game the way they’re playing the game. You’re not going to win if we’re soft and they’re — they have no rules.”
On waterboarding, Trump said that the law should be changed “at a minimum to allow that.” Waterboarding was one of the “enhanced interrogation techniques” previously used by the United States.
Donald is a man of competition. He can’t be beat in anything, whether that be business, dick size, or torture. And right now, ISIS is totally winning the torture game. Not in MY America.
Waterboarding is for pledges, not terrorists. I say we go Medieval on those motherfuckers.
Strap Abdul to a chair, pry his eyes open with meat hooks, and force him to watch every season of “Girls” on repeat. Then, herd out a pack of the youngest, sexiest goats the States have to offer, and let them just stand there, eating hay and baahh-ing, teasing him while he’s strapped in. Finally, finish off the torture sesh by having someone whisper the word “moist” in his ear over and over again.
That’ll show ’em..
[via Military.com]
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I want to water board dorns disgusting face
10 years ago at 11:54 amSounds kinda gay
10 years ago at 12:03 pmI just can’t wait to hear what the liberal media and millennials have to say about this, but on that note FUCK ISIS
10 years ago at 11:56 amOK this joke has gone too far. You guys are really starting to worry us up here.
10 years ago at 11:58 amWhy do we let you be a country?
10 years ago at 11:59 amYou guys tried to change that one time; it didn’t work out too well for ya.
10 years ago at 12:57 pmwe also only had 13 states now we have 50
10 years ago at 3:01 pmNumber of States = Military Strength???? Like I’m aware that’s a battle that we’d lose today, but is the number of states that you have the most compelling argument you can come up with?
10 years ago at 3:24 pmGo home Canada, it’s past your curfew.
10 years ago at 12:00 pmYa but we can touch bare boobs in our strip clubs country-wide. So who’s the real winner here?
10 years ago at 1:01 pmBut in the States we get to touch the bare boobs of Lady Liberty so lace ’em up.
10 years ago at 1:51 pmYa and in Alabama you get to touch your sister’s titties. My point is, some boobs just aren’t meant to be fondled.
10 years ago at 2:02 pmI’m a registered Republican, fraternity alum, current Naval Aviatior with missions over ISIS territory, and damn proud American. This rhetoric and this idea is frankly disgusting and stands against everything we are as a country and as world leaders. We cannot stand for this, and our leaders should not weaken our country by spouting this bullshit.
10 years ago at 11:59 amThank you for your service. God Bless.
10 years ago at 12:03 pmThanks for the service you gave me last night, Ty.
10 years ago at 2:48 pmI am genuinely curious if you could answer a few questions for me since you have military experience. I know from what McCain (and others) has said about torture that it tends to provide false information. So do Daeisha or others not gain any actual Intel from these methods and use it only as a scare tactic, or does it sometimes actually yield useful information? I’m trying to get a more thorough understanding on if by taking the moral high ground we are potentially costing our military lives that could otherwise be saved. I see your point and want to get behind what you’re saying but if it came down to not torturing the guy whose most recent erection came from thinking about beheading my whole family or torturing him and saving one of our guys I’m calling my unstable pledge educator to “have words with him” 10 times out of 10.
10 years ago at 1:08 pmTl;dr: I know nothing and wish someone would educate me.
10 years ago at 1:10 pm“It’s not that simple”
99% of the actions ISIS takes that make it onto the news are specifically for that purpose, to create shock value and somehow drum up support for their cause. The beheadings, mass executions, etc. all help them spread their message, and attract recruits/scare their opponents.
Good information can come from torture, but it’s a crap shoot. The only Americans captured by ISIS were journalists/humanitarians, so if they were tortured (most likely) it was almost certainly more as punishment rather than with the hope of gaining any useful information. They’d be better served for the propaganda value of getting an American to denounce the American cause on international TV than to trust any sort of actionable intelligence they’d get from one, including servicemembers.
As for “costing military lives” to date, only one American serviceman, MSGT. Wheeler, has been killed directly by enemy fire in actions against ISIS and that was because he was Special Forces involved in a dangerous action. Given the nature of this conflict the highest risk types are pilots and SF operators, which is why we go to the highest level of SERE training (google it) (it sucks ass). You’re much more likely to see a servicemen killed because a politician/news source blabs something they shouldn’t rather than another American was captured and tortured.
As for other non ISIS opponents, torture isn’t really the thing you do anymore because wars end and memories last. Also the modern battlefield changes so rapidly you can’t get that much useful out of Joe Private or even LTJG Tailhook
In any case, the moral high ground is worth preserving because that’s who we are as the American People, and that’s the reason why I joined the service. I watched the towers fall in elementary school and will never forget it, but I never even dreamed of going after our enemies noncombatants. Beating ISIS isn’t done by stooping to barbarism. That *might* (it isn’t) be a good way to win the battle, but it’s an excellent way to lose the war.
10 years ago at 1:27 pmNot to mention he believed that military leaders would obey his illegal commands to kill the families of our enemies just because he said to. People need to wake up and understand that this rhetoric is very dangerous and is against everything that we as Americans stand claim to stand for. How he continues to gain support just baffles me. Also why do the Naval ranks have a lieutenant junior grade instead of a 1LT as an O-2. And a LT as O3. Never understood it.
10 years ago at 2:21 pmTradition from British roots I imagine. I have no idea.
10 years ago at 2:36 pmWell here’s to a president who might actually give a shit about the military after 8 years under obummer but isn’t named Trump, Hillary, or Bernie.
10 years ago at 6:59 pmPeople like you give me hope. God bless.
10 years ago at 11:24 pmOnly after 8 years of Obama can the election cycle be this god damn backwards. Hoping Kasich wins ohio and michigan. God damn.
10 years ago at 12:10 pmThankfully he is in front of Rubio now.
10 years ago at 10:56 pmI really like Kasich (I think everybody does) but it will be extremely hard for him to win the republican nomination at this point but much more try and beat Clinton in the general. He is incredible on policy and has nearly every qualification but I believe he is the perfect go to VP with his strengths for any of the 3 leaders right now.
10 years ago at 11:53 pmHe will win if it’s a brokered convention, delegated that are forced to back trump now will bolt if given the opportunity to back someone, I don’t know, qualified.
10 years ago at 11:26 pmI saw Trump in Concord, NC yesterday. If you have the patience (and the sanity) to listen to him talk, he speaks in circles. And the longer he speaks the shorter the interval between circles gets. No wonder he claims to “love the poorly educated.” I’m going to see Cruz speak tonight in Kannapolis, NC tonight.
10 years ago at 12:22 pmI’ve heard Cruz and the Trumpster. I heard Trump recently when he did a touch n go before Super Tuesday. I swear on everything that guy has Aspergers. Cruz is a fantastic speaker as long as you listen to the context of what he says and don’t focus too much on his face. My advice, look at his wife and listen to him.
10 years ago at 9:29 pmEvery candidate has exhausted their speeches and slogans at this point. The political process is just too long and should be limited from starting during the summer to starting in October instead.
10 years ago at 11:57 pmTrue I had the benefit of hearing Cruz much earlier in the process
10 years ago at 10:55 amIncreasing our torture game would just lower ourselves and our standards to the same level of ISIS. If we want to be better than them, and defeat them, why would we lower ourselves and mimic their savagery? We’re the better country and we should act like it.
10 years ago at 12:55 pmJust curious, what is everyone’s opinion regarding the deployment of troops back to the region? I’d like to get a perspective outside of my own and outside of the typical “kill ’em all” attitude which doesn’t make for a very educated conversation.
I’m of the opinion that doing so is merely a topical solution and does not adequately address the underlying issues that have created the instability and contributed to the radicalization of the youth who set the foundations for the futures of these countries. A lot of people don’t realize that several Middle Eastern countries were actually fairly modernized until radical Islamist leaders took control in the 1950s-1970s.
I think that, moving forward, encouraging economic prosperity and increasing access to proper education can break the cycle of radicalization that has been occurring for 30+ years. Doing so also establishes positive views of the US in the people receiving the education and could prove useful for diplomatic ties further down the road.
10 years ago at 1:58 pmThe unfortunate thing is that this just doesn’t sound nice coming from a politician running for election. There is a huge disconnect between what a politician says is right, and what is actually right.
I just don’t know how you can bomb cities in order to win over the support of the public. I sure know I’d be pissed off if I lost my house because some dick head was living somewhere on my street.
10 years ago at 2:44 pmUS Army currently in Afghanistan, here. Deployment of ground troops is necessary to hold territory. But, is that what we really want? We’re basically stuck in Afghanistan indefinitely. As soon as we pull out, it’s going to implode just like Iraq did and just like Afghanistan did when the Russians left. Sure the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan rooted up and wiped out countless terrorists, but at what cost? A more unstable region?
So to answer your question… I don’t think anyone really knows what the correct response should be. I think the ‘Westernized’ countries in the Middle East need to step up and police their own region, but the chances of that happening are slim to none. The Neo-Cons (including Hillary) running for POTUS think that ‘carpet bombing’ solves all problems. It doesn’t. Again, ground troops hold territory, but surging troops into Iraq is going to wind up with the same problems next time we try to leave.
10 years ago at 11:17 pm