Never giving up power after GDIs protest. TFM.

    1. Broblesse Oblige

      There’s a big difference between freedom and democracy. If this is about Egypt, then it’s a TFM to refuse to allow your country to collapse into chaos and eventual Islamist rule. Freedom is more than voting and liberty must be preserved above the tyranny of the masses.

      14 years ago at 4:22 pm
  1. Bill Bromanowski

    Not know what true democratic revolution is. NF. I guess you are from Texas… you wouldn’t get it.

    14 years ago at 4:01 pm
    1. Roll frat roll

      The Alamo was in Texas dumbass. I believe The Battle of the Alamo would go down as a true democratic revolution. Not knowing history is NF.

      14 years ago at 4:12 pm
    2. Brobert Morrison

      Roll frat roll – I assume you meant to say the Texas Revolution was a true democratic revolution, bc the Alamo was just one battle in our revolution…

      14 years ago at 4:41 pm
  2. The Milledge Bus

    Supporting dictators. NF. Siding with the people in a peaceful protest to acquire the freedoms we are so used to here in the USA. TFM.

    Also, one of the protesters when interviewed on tv quoting an American hero “Give Me Liberty or Give Me Death”. TFM.

    14 years ago at 5:28 pm
    1. StayClassy

      Couldn’t have said it better myself. Men and women are dying in the streets for liberty and freedom from oppression. God bless them.

      14 years ago at 5:48 pm
  3. SouthernByGodsGrace

    You guys won’t be siding with Egypt’s call for “democracy” when it ends up being an anti-American Muslim Brotherhood theocracy that mirror’s Iran’s. Remember Hamas came from the Muslim Brotherhood. Being a free American I’d take a dictator who suppresses Islamic extremists any day over a theocracy that is anti-American, anti-freedom, anti-alcohol, and anti-women who show skin.

    14 years ago at 6:16 pm
    1. Fratsolut

      I forgot you were a scholar on the middle eastern world with a focus on Egyptian studies.. Isn’t there usually more than one candidate in an election? So its not a guarantee that this islamic extremist group takes over, right? Shit I forgot that because you live in a country where everything is given to you, like the freedom to vote, the freedom of choice, you forgot other people in the world might want to have those same ideals. Mubarak is a dictator. Imagine your fuckass self having a dictator as your president. traveling to egypt to study abroad and becoming cultured TFM. speaking out of your ass NF. i’m proud to be an american and i’m proud that other countries would want to model themselves after us

      14 years ago at 7:08 pm
    2. Broblesse Oblige

      I’ve travelled to Egypt and I am a scholar of history who has focused, to a considerable degree, on recent Near Eastern history. This is exactly what happened in Iran. There was a coalition of socialists, liberals, and Islamists. They pressed for democracy. The US abandoned its ally. Elections may occur, but the results don’t matter. The Soviets and the clerics in Iran conducted/conduct elections. They were/are stunningly illegitimate. Mubarak held fake elections. It doesn’t matter who wins an election in the Middle East. All that matters is who has the most force. If you think this unrest will end in lasting democracy, you’re entirely ignorant of history.

      14 years ago at 7:25 pm
    3. Broblesse Oblige

      And this revolution, as much as the media might say otherwise, is a response to reductions in food subsidies. This is the result of a broader economic collapse and democrats are definitely a minority in the movement.

      14 years ago at 7:30 pm
    4. Broblesse Oblige

      And do you know how many successful Arab democracies there have been? None. The concept doesn’t exist in the Arab world.

      14 years ago at 7:34 pm
    5. fratican

      Christians are less than 10% in Egypt and the Muslim Brotherhood has gotten increasingly moderate. Support for that organization is too strong to put anyone in place that doesn’t at least have a friendly relationship. That being said, Mubarak has one of the worst human rights records internationally. Why shouldn’t they have a theocracy? If it’s what the people want, go for it. Isn’t that what democracy is all about? Making ignorant judgements on a country whose history/political climate you know little about? NF.

      14 years ago at 9:58 pm
    6. Broblesse Oblige

      If a theocracy replaces the regime, real democracy stands no chance. Iran’s elections are a joke. I fail to see, at all, what the low number of Copts has to do with anything, by the way. And theocracy is terrible for everyone not of the religion in power. That’s why Western states have constitutionally enshrined rights. If you fundamentally oppose equality for people of different religions and cultural preferences, then there isn’t any more use for debate. You can join Al Qaeda and work toward theocracy. Just know that it is at odds with the United States and you’ll probably be shot. Your comment, fratican

      14 years ago at 2:43 pm
  4. demboyz1925

    I just want Egypt to not end up like Iran. The Suez Canal has almost approximately 85-90% of the West’s oil passing through it each day (not to mention supporting our men and women fighting everyday overseas). It has been shown through out history that slow gradual change leads to the best outcomes: cases and points (for both the good and the bad and the ugly): The Greatest of All time: the United States of America. Two hundred and fifty years of gradual change has led to the best social experiment in the history of mankind. The bad: The Soviet Union: While many of the leaders of glasnost had their hearts in the right place with destroying the evil beast known as the Iron Curtain. It hurt their people the most in the long run because they had to devalue their currency and shut down factories that were woefully inefficient which left people who had been accustomed to working regardless of productivity out of work. The ugly: Jimmy Carter’s blunders with Iran. The Iranian students have shocking similiarities to the Muslim Brotherhood. I fear that if Mubarak does resign, assasinated, or forced by outside pressure there very well could be a power vacuum that would lead to something much worse than Mubarak sitting on the Suez Canal and gas prices at 9-11$ a gallon if we are lucky. So I urge everyone to realize to be careful what you wish for: “Those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it.” (George Santayana, 20th Century American poet and playwright).
    But Mr. Obama’s days are numbered. I can see the ghost of Mr. Jimmy Carter roaming the White House halls on CNN, Fox, etc.

    14 years ago at 8:11 am