Veteran Pledge; the Pros, the Cons, the FaF

Spring Rush will be here in just a few weeks, and I’d like to talk about a very special kind of rushee: the veteran. When it comes to rushing veterans there are pros and cons. I don’t actually suggest bidding every veteran that shows up. After six years of service I can tell you that there are plenty of fuck ups and geeds that can call themselves “veterans.” It’s still important to approach each veteran as an individual, even if many of them are distinguished individuals. Evaluate them just like you would anyone else. The only exceptions to that rule I would suggest are to take their age and any tattoos they may have with a grain of salt. Their age obviously deserves to be overlooked (usually, don’t rush a 30-year-old). After all, your typical vet forewent what would have been his first few years of college to instead take craps in a hole in the ground and spend his evenings dodging RPGs. Besides, think about the convenience of having a pledge that can buy alcohol, you never have to leave the house! Tattoos deserve special exemption because for some reason everyone I served with that was worth a fuck in a fire fight had at least one, and lot of times it’s just a unit thing (or an “I’m on leave and incredibly shitfaced” thing).

The Pros:

Probably the best thing about bidding a veteran is that he is not a pussy. Life in the military tends to suck, especially when you’re a private, and especially in the infantry. Given the choice of repeating pledgeship or spending another 12 months as a private I’d take pledgeship every time. At least when I was pledging the only person trying to kill me was the angry fat fifth year senior. There is also the aforementioned positive of the veteran pledge more than likely being 21, so again, you can have a pledge make all your beer runs. Another pro will be his perception of women. Spending an ungodly amount of time with only dudes and the unfortunate lowered expectations that come with being used to the trailer trash that sleaze around in the backwater towns most bases are located near can affect a man. Even the most mediocre sorostitutes will be outright smoke shows to many veterans. They can be outstanding wingmen.

The Cons:

While having a 21+ year old pledge is fun, don’t make a big deal about his age with other people. If anyone asks, he is “21”. Your social chair does not want to get the mid-homecoming week call from XXX sorority social chair “You sent a 26-year-old to creep on our babies? Are you fucking kidding me?” You can either try to get the older girls to set him up with one of their seniors, or just keep it under wraps. Personally I think any sorority girl should feel lucky to fellate a defender of freedom, but some girls just can’t get over an eight year age gap. It also might be a little awkward for his big brother, who could actually be several years younger. Lastly, many veterans have PTSD so you might have to be a little careful with some hazing activities to prevent your veteran pledge from going all John Rambo in the hazement.

The FaF:

How would you like a fraternity brother who has actually fought terrorists? He might be going back to Afghanistan at some point, how about pictures of the fraternity flag flying in Afghanistan declaring this land free of both terrorism and GDIs? Last, but certainly not least, many of these guys have had time as an NCO, and have administered their fair share of “corrective training.” If you cannot imagine the usefulness of such experience then you probably aren’t in a real fraternity.

A military veteran has the ability to make a fine addition to any fraternity, and they deserve a chance to rush/pledge. They sacrificed their time (specifically the time of their lives) to help defend the United States of America. These veterans are brave, selfless, and already know what it means to be both a brother and a leader. More often than not, adding a veteran to your fraternity will end up improving the quality of your house. Plus, like I said, they know how to haze balls.

  1. FuckinGoats

    We had a 23 year old Iraq veteran pledge a few years ago… Turns out he had PTSD and was completely psycho and tried to take over the chapter and destroy it. Most veteran fraternity men I have encountered are great guys and fit in, but you never know. Those guys see things most people should never see over there.

    13 years ago at 12:04 pm
    1. iraqvet

      I am an Iraq vet that pledged. It is true that there are some vets out that make us look bad. The problem is that the Army lowered its standards to join. Fraternities shouldn’t make that mistake. All of the people I served with are my brothers in arms because of the bond that is created, but fraternities need to be weary. The military is like a sample of the national population. You got the awesome, FAF, pretty good, mediocre, and lower levels of shit. Just because someone is a veteran doesn’t mean they aren’t a brokedick or a shitbag, but they are better than any OWS liberal pussy any day of the week. Choose wisely.

      13 years ago at 12:20 pm
    2. Frataloosca

      I’m glad these guys understand what I’ve been saying to people on this site for forever now. I grew up in a family with 4 generations of US military but just because somebody serves doesn’t make them FaF, my brother is in Afghanistan now, biggest douche AND he’s a mail man but you would never know that if you bid him for being a Marine alone….think before you bid

      13 years ago at 9:22 am
    3. PKPFratting

      There are a couple veterans in my Fraternity with me being one of them (Prior service in Army). There’s definitely shitbags that joined awhile ago because the Army was giving away $20 thousand dollar bonuses and waivers to get people to joined. But now the Army has increased their standards because of the increased supply of soldiers which now has MEPS cracking down hard on no gos. So the ones that are already in are always the ones that are under the microscope and give a bad image for the service as a whole. It’s bound to happen and even in Greek life there’s bound to be some chapters around the country that are not as fratty as your own.

      I believe you should respect every veteran for doing something that maybe around 99% of the U.S. couldn’t do and that is putting their life on the line to preserve the freedom of the USA and putting those GDI terrorists in their place. I especially respect the combat arms (artilleryman myself) and even the supply guys. Everyone does their share over there.

      With that being said, take every veteran with a grain of salt. Some guys I know are messed up for life with PTSD and everything and those guys may not be right for the Fraternity life.

      I agree with the article it pays to have military guys in your fraternity. Who else is going to know how the break down the pledges better than guys who went through boot camp themselves. I mean without that experience who else would know how to do lethal injections, supermans, and etc..?


      13 years ago at 1:21 am
  2. monumentavenue

    wow man great column. a fantastic read. really insightful words.
    go fuk yourself

    13 years ago at 1:06 pm
    1. pledgesarenotppl

      ^^Wow. You don’t know how to construct a fucking sentence. Go fuck* yourself.

      13 years ago at 9:41 pm
  3. fratborne ranger

    Couldn’t Agree more. Just because a person is a veteran does not indeed make them FaF in fact lots of veterans prefer the TAP-OUT/ Affliction tees…it’s scary.

    13 years ago at 1:18 pm
    1. Stetson_and_Spurs

      And all the stuff that Ranger Up makes plus all the MACP stuff you can find at a PX.

      13 years ago at 1:56 pm
    2. Floridafrat

      Wait. Military combat veterans that wear brands that revolve around… wait for it… combat sports? That’s god awful. Military vets get a pass on the frattire, killing hadjis is FaF in my book.

      13 years ago at 2:11 pm
    3. FratasticMrOX

      I’ll be damned if there is a vet out there who is confident, upstanding individual who risked his life for this country only to come back and be judged by his choice of clothing. Fratborne ranger go to the kitchen(because caring what someone wears is a TSM), look underneath the sink, grab the bleach and ammonia, mix them together, and inhale.

      13 years ago at 3:17 pm
    4. RagnarDanneskjold

      Eight weeks is plenty of time to teach someone how to dress. Besides, the ones that are interested in rushing often start reading shit like TFM months in advance (I did).

      13 years ago at 4:01 pm
    5. SouthernByGodsGrace

      Great article! And yes, vets do get a pass in wearing that, they actually engage in combatives, unlike the Guido geeds that wear it after taking two jiujitsu classes.

      The vets that you guys say “suck” most likely won’t be going to a good university anyways, nonetheless spending the money on fraternity dues. 90% of the vets I know or have served with would make a better fraternity man then most of the little shits trying to rush.

      13 years ago at 4:17 pm
    6. Class_Humility_Frat

      All veterans deserve respect, assholes. Just because some don’t fit in with us or our lifestyle does not give us the right to criticize them. We should all remember that there are great men out there who never pledged. Plus, I do not see any of you assholes signing a DD form.

      13 years ago at 11:24 pm
  4. anon7472974648

    This picture: FaF does not do it justice. IHSV, and thank you for protecting my freedom.

    13 years ago at 2:23 pm